So from you point of view, Stan's is the walmart bike and ENVE is the specialized? They are going to fall apart on me?Why not?
Why do need a "fancy" mountain bike when a Walmart special will do?
Why spend $1900 on wheels period?
Because it's a hobby and we all spend crazy stupid money on it.
There is no justification.
But, unless the Stans rims are made in the USA it's not a true apples to apples comparision. Not to mention DT 180 Hubs are $$$.
Fair point, however, my post wasn't necessarily directed towards people looking for bargains. We all know spending $1900 for rims is nuts. But there are advantages to carbon rims and some people who race consider them worth it. My point being, of those subset of racers who see the advantage, why would anyone give ENVE their business at 2x the price? (I understand hubs, but they shouldn't be that different in price).Not at all. I own/run both Stans and Enve wheels. I think they are both great products.
I said that to illustrate the fact that if you mentioned to anyone outside of the biking community that you were going to buy "bicycle wheels" for $1900 they would think you are nuts.
Thanks car_nut, this was exactly the point of my post. If the difference is stiffer rim, hub choices, and great customer service then it's a judgment call on whether those features are worth the premium. I just wanted to quantify the differences so buyers could make an educated decision.With that said, Enve's are a premium product that will treat you like an Amex Black card. Brake rim? Call 'em up and they'll happily take care of you. With that said, it is well past the inflection point on the value curve. A set of Derby's and Hopes will get you most of what you're looking for at half the cost.
Give in wheels vs harshness is more important on a hardtail. FS bikes have a rear suspension for that and can make more use of a stiff wheel.Interesting comments all round, I am interested in the Stans for the ride quality they are said to give over a super stiff carbon wheelset like Enve. Will wait and see how they go once they are available and decide from there if they are worth going for over an aluminium wheelset. Been running Stans Crest as a XC wheelset on my 26er and just about to buy a 429C as a race bike. The Crest is quite flexy in cornering but I like the sound of the way the Valor's give.
Been racing XC on and off for 26 years so have seen my fair share of trends and always wait to see what works before jumping in. Carbon wheels have been around for ages and I have waited out this one too.
Good topic as wheels are one of the considerations I have been making in regards to the new bike.