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Ellsworth Come on................

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Unbelievable, it is the first week in April, and Ellsworth do not have in ID's in stock and are not making anymore for 2005. They say they made enough, mmmmmmmmmmm dont think so. Also re the fact they are moving the welding from 3rd party welders back to in house has caused issues.

That still stinks. Do I get a Truth or a Moment, even a Moment with a light build, will still be too similar to my Freeride bike (was a 04 Dare, now an 05 VP Free) so wanted a XC bike. Ellsworth come out and answer my questions.

Build a Truth that is slightly more trail bike enclined that full XC inclined...

Come on guys, what should I do...
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Whafe said:
Unbelievable, it is the first week in April, and Ellsworth do not have in ID's in stock and are not making anymore for 2005. They say they made enough, mmmmmmmmmmm dont think so. Also re the fact they are moving the welding from 3rd party welders back to in house has caused issues.
That still stinks. Do I get a Truth or a Moment, even a Moment with a light build, will still be too similar to my Freeride bike (was a 04 Dare, now an 05 VP Free) so wanted a XC bike. Ellsworth come out and answer my questions.

Build a Truth that is slightly more trail bike enclined that full XC inclined...

Come on guys, what should I do...
Last time I was in Richards(rbikes.com) they had some IDs.
Yes, got my Dare from Richards Bicycles. Good guys in that store...........

Might check this out

Cheers
F
Have you considered getting a bike from a different manufactuer? If I had the money for a new frame then Ellsworth would not be my first choice.
Well, please speak up with your choice............... What would you choose if you had the money..
"Back to In house?"

I don't recall Ellsworth ever making their own bikes.

Whafe said:
Unbelievable, it is the first week in April, and Ellsworth do not have in ID's in stock and are not making anymore for 2005. They say they made enough, mmmmmmmmmmm dont think so. Also re the fact they are moving the welding from 3rd party welders back to in house has caused issues.

That still stinks. Do I get a Truth or a Moment, even a Moment with a light build, will still be too similar to my Freeride bike (was a 04 Dare, now an 05 VP Free) so wanted a XC bike. Ellsworth come out and answer my questions.

Build a Truth that is slightly more trail bike enclined that full XC inclined...

Come on guys, what should I do...
Sorry.. May have made an error, if so 1000 apoligies. If they didnt in the past, they are going to in the future so Ellsworth said.................
Long live the ID

Unbelievable, I can't understand how Ellsworth could let this happen, through my sources I understand that part of the run out has been caused by a couple of things, one the rumors around that the ID was being discontinued, IMO this would have been a huge blunder by Ellsworth as the ID for 05 was finally reconfigured to be the bike it deserves to be a 5inch trail wrecking machine which is what I turned mine into RP3 etc based on the 04 Cal edition 7.5 x 2.0 rather than the old config of 7.875 x 2.0 or x 2.25 and by the way I have a Moment also so don't go there these are 2 different bikes and I won't be convinced otherwise by TE or anyone else.

If the story is true the ID will continue in some form in 06,, the rumors of it's demise a few months ago created a increase in orders from retailers in the know, and also offerings of frame and fork also increased demand hence the run out on the stock made to fulfill the 05 period by Ellsworth.

Ellsworth from my understanding will be doing all construction work in house in the future, and just to clear up some construction issues they "were" welded in the same factory as Turner and Santa Cruz frames.

I would voice my disappointment that Ellsworth have not informed some dealers of this problem and come up with some sort of solution to customers who have ordered an ID through there LBS, not good enough really, I'm sure some suppliers who have plenty in stock would send them on and help out if asked as they themselves may find they are in this situation one day and would appreciate the same done for them.
If this is not an option, and sometimes things do go wrong then at least inform people the dealers are your customers too they deserve this communication at the very least, you have a website, information is easily relayed these days and appreciated, remember we can only support you if you support us.

Come on E just when your'e CS and marketing was starting to turn things around this happens, remember the loyal people who stand behind you no matter the bs they often receive especially in this forum.

Though I'm not a Bike shop, dealer or otherwise I do support the brand and am only to happy to share my rides with those open enough to ride an E an make there own informed decisions based on there experience rather than some of the bs found on some posts about Es.

2 things to finish with here one this gives the Turner 5 spot no real opposition and another chance to add to the Turner State plus this is something I'm sure DT would handle fairly to support his existing loyal and new potential customers! This leaves Ellsworth IMO with a real hole in there line up and a marketing phopar considering the lost ground the Dare has already been through! The ID will be missed by those who KNOW! thankfully I'm one of the lucky ones and have one to enjoy when I want to rip the trail, RIP to those who will have to wait or go with an alternative thats not their real choice I share yr pain, hopefully there will be a solution, LONG live the ID, bring back buck! I mean ID!

If any of this information is incorrect then please inform us otherwise so we can be sure we have the right info! Night ride tomorrow night going hard, E rider out!
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Fufilling your request for correction:

EWBs are/were not made at the same place as Turners. Turners are made at SAPA annodizing inc. in Portland. EWBs are made at Kenisis in Portland.
Same city. Different builders...

EWB will be doing their own fabbing now? That's a HUGE step. Congrats to them for pulling all the logistics together for such a process.

As for the Id, I'm rather suprised to hear of it's temporary(?) hold. EWB has always had a large linup of offerings. Why cutback here?
Well you wanted to know what I would choose instead of a Ellsworth. Lets see here. Maybe a Santa Cruz Bullit or Specialized Big Hit FSR or Intense Spider 5.5...

Anything but a Ellsworth. ;)
Kona0197 said:
Well you wanted to know what I would choose instead of a Ellsworth. Lets see here. Maybe a Santa Cruz Bullit or Specialized Big Hit FSR or Intense Spider 5.5...

Anything but a Ellsworth. ;)
Weren't you the one that posted this thread a few topics down?

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=77361
The guy asked me what I would get - I responded. I see no problem.
Hey Kona dude................Sorry BUT, grow some balls.................Why say anything but Ellsworth. You dont own one, nor have you ever ridden one (that even makes you look more like the first living brain doner)

I have owned a Specialized, not for me. DOnt want a mass made frame, and I own a Santa Cruz......................
So let me get this straight

Kona0197 said:
The guy asked me what I would get - I responded. I see no problem.
By your own admission you have neither owned, nor ridden an Ellsworth bike, yet you are comfortable coming here to the Ellsworth Forum and putting forth your opinions on Ellsworth products. Well I am going to store that in the hard drive of useful information.
jim

Never trust anyone who has a Shimano Acera product on their bike.
I have read enough information on this board to know that I do not want a ellsworth more many reasons. Rather it be that they crack or that TE has some shady business practices.

Anyhow... you guys are right. I'm going to just leave now. ;)
Whats wrong with specialized they make some nice rides, some pretty flashy too,

Or, are they not exclusive enough for you?
Ha ha, first fish has taken the bait............ You will note that I never said anything negative re Specialized, nothing to do with not being exclusive enough. Have worked F....ing hard to get where I am, if I wish to purchase a handmade frame is that not my business.

And yes indeed Specialized do make some great bikes, as do most companies. When you get older you will appreciate beautiful welds and engineering etc etc etc, it becomes like art really.............
Whafe said:
Ha ha, first fish has taken the bait............ You will note that I never said anything negative re Specialized, nothing to do with not being exclusive enough. Have worked F....ing hard to get where I am, if I wish to purchase a handmade frame is that not my business.

And yes indeed Specialized do make some great bikes, as do most companies. When you get older you will appreciate beautiful welds and engineering etc etc etc, it becomes like art really.............
If that's the case, then you should check out Ventana. You won't have to worry about what's in stock, as Sherwood will build you what ever you want. Built in house to your specs and "Electric Sex" welds that are to die for.



FYI,
D.
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Oh so you are trolling ......so sorry,

By the by, I am 2 years older than you, and probably work just as hard, and have not one but two handmade bicycles with impeccable welds, and one has custom lugs which actually are art. I just think you were being a little arrogant to the Kona guy, and now to me

So thanks for your sanctamonious reply
Point taken Canadian C.

Was not in anyway supposed to be trolling or trying to "get at you".

If it came across that way, am sorry. Can get a little tiring for those of us who wish to purchase handmade frames and get trashed by others who dont or cannot. When I was younger, I too had to purchase mass produced bikes, and there are some great ones too.

So sorry for generalising. I still think the Kona dude should not spout off about Ellsworth when he has doesnt owwn one, let alone has ridden one.

The welds on the above Ventana look magic, truly awesome.

Be well
F
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