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so i am looking at new brakes for my bike and have sorta come down to these, stopping power is not a huge issue as i am 150lbs and its an xc bike. So i am simply looking for opinion of each and any one that has used both as they are about the same price from Chain reaction. Thanks
 

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I am also leaning towards the Elixer crs. I have a few friends that have rode with both and they perfer the elixers. Actually my mined was made up after reading the reviews of the two on this forum. I always heard that the xtr brakes have had problems. After the new year I will be upgrading to the elixer crs.
 

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I pondered this recently and went with the XTR's. My logic:
  • Shimano levers, calipers and hoses are all interchangable and available cheaply & independently. This means I don't have to buy a whole new brake if I bend a lever. etc etc.
  • Shimano levers have generally proven to be more durable in my experience. fewer adjustments on the lever = less stuff to get damaged in a crash.
  • Mineral oil is environmentally friendly and easy to clean up
  • no special tools required to bleed shimanos
  • Elixers are too new to really have proven durability
  • shimanos came in cheaper and lighter
 

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Elixers are no doubt more powerful than XTRs but XTRs are very light. I chose XTs for my DH bike and XTRs for my AM bike. The XTs have plenty of power. I haven't ridden the XTRs yet but they use the same caliper as the XTs minus a few grams due to some machining and the lever is the same but uses a constant ratio rather than XT's servowave. In my opinion the big selling point of Shimano brakes is the extra large gap between the rotor and pads. It's nearly double the pad clearence of Avid and Hayes brakes. This makes for easier setup and less pad rub in real world use. Since you are a lightweight XC rider brake weight and pad rub might mean more to you than having a brake with DH power. Consider that I weigh 170 and I'm gonna use my XTRs on a 6" travel bike on Colorado's high mountain pass decents.
 

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it is the more proven vs the new brake with rave review, i like the lighter xtr's but i like the prospect of greater stopping power of the elixers and in truth its 200 grams or so
the cost is the same before factoring in the cost of 6 bolt rotors for the shimanos
it is a toss up and thus i am looking for head to head comparisons

just as a side note i do like that the avids would match my sram drivtrain but i dont care that much
 

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iridexc said:
it is the more proven vs the new brake with rave review, i like the lighter xtr's but i like the prospect of greater stopping power of the elixers and in truth its 200 grams or so
the cost is the same before factoring in the cost of 6 bolt rotors for the shimanos
it is a toss up and thus i am looking for head to head comparisons

just as a side note i do like that the avids would match my sram drivtrain but i dont care that much
How much does a complete xtr brake weigh? From what I could gather from their website the caliper is 217 grams and the lever is 192 grams. the elixir cr's are only 375 with 160mm rotor. And they're supposed to be between the juicy's and the codes for power, but with way better modulation. I've only got one snow ride on mine so I can't say for sure but they sure seem nice.
 

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FM said:
I pondered this recently and went with the XTR's. My logic:
  • Shimano levers, calipers and hoses are all interchangable and available cheaply & independently. This means I don't have to buy a whole new brake if I bend a lever. etc etc.
  • Shimano levers have generally proven to be more durable in my experience. fewer adjustments on the lever = less stuff to get damaged in a crash.
  • Mineral oil is environmentally friendly and easy to clean up
  • no special tools required to bleed shimanos
  • Elixers are too new to really have proven durability
  • shimanos came in cheaper and lighter
I picked up a set of new xtr at a local swap meet on the cheap....and share the same logic on going with shimano,how have they been...some of the reviews talk of rotor rub and problems with sticking piston....pass on your feedback
 

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I have both. I have been happy overall with my xtr's. Power and modulation are not as good and I have had one case of a sticky piston but for the 8 months I have run them on my 29er they have been fine. I recently got a new Epiphany and I wanted something new. My LBS gave me a bro deal on the CR's $130 per wheel. I could not pass that up. I have about 10 rides on them and I am blown away by how well they work. As I said in my review I feel like they will stop a train. My XTR's work like an on/off switch, the Avids are more progressive. Setup is super easy and I never get any drag. I also like that I can use avid matchmakers to save a little weight.
 

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XTR weights:
Levers w/ hose coupling & rubber cover: 102grams each
Calipers, IS w/ hose coupling, pads, bolts: F-109, R-112
Hose w/ olives & barbs (cut to fit XL Ibis Mojo & DUC32): F-12, R-24
Alligator rotors 160mm: 94 each
Oil: F- 9, R- 13
Total for set: 671grams
 

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Lelandjt said:
XTR weights:
Levers w/ hose coupling & rubber cover: 102grams each
Calipers, IS w/ hose coupling, pads, bolts: F-109, R-112
Hose w/ olives & barbs (cut to fit XL Ibis Mojo & DUC32): F-12, R-24
Alligator rotors 160mm: 94 each
Oil: F- 9, R- 13
Total for set: 671grams
so the elixers are only about 70ish grams extra, think ill go for them when i have the cash
thanks to all who helped
 
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