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I've got Six Six One Veggie Wraps and Kyle Strait knee pads. Any opinions on whether those are deemed adequate for knee protection and...advice on lightweight but effective elbow (and forearm) protection. Pads that would not be noticeable or constrictive of hours of pedaling would be a bonus. I'm sure the Turner Brain Trust will have reasoned advice to give.

Think "mostly for Utah mini-epics" like tscheezy just posted, as I'm going to do that loop in a few weeks. As well as all the usual suspects in the Moab area.
 

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I thought you only climbed?!

I use the Kyle Straights and Veggie's for everything...including shuttle assisted runs with the full face on. I should probably invest in a chest protector for those really rocky days...

Edit: I don't use the veggies...I was thinking about the chichen wings for the elbows...sorry...long day at work...
 

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I have that exact combo (Kyle Strait knees/veggie shins). I usually only wear them dirt jumping, although I sometimes wear the Kyle Straits for XC riding. The problem with the Kyle Straits is that they pull down easily if you have a long, sliding wipeout. They handle impact well, but grip the ground a little too well. I speak from experience, and have seen it happen to others as well.

For shuttle/lift riding, I use the ubiquitous Roach Rally FRs. They are comfortable and offer excellent protection, but are kinda overkill for XC riding (IMHO). For normal riding I like the Troy Lee Combats. They area a bit lower profile and allow better movement of the knee for pedaling.

For upper body, I have a set of Roach arms, and a Dianese Safety Jacket. I rarely wear arm armor while riding XC, but when I do I wear the Roaches. The Safety Jacket is for lift/shuttle days only.

For Moab riding, I would vote that you definitely try to get something with a hard shell. Neoprene soft armor does not work well on the rocks.
 

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I've been able to do some longish pedals in KS's, something you want to get used to/broken in first for sure, and I agree that they do move on slider falls. Never worn them with veggie shins though. Lately I've been using the TLC Lopes knee shin, this is the most comfy leg armor I've ever worn, but I haven't given them any crash testing yet. The knee pads are light duty and would do good for xc'ing, but if I'm doing 3 hours of xc I go nude. With the full pads attached I've been really suprised how good they feel pedaling uphill. It is really easy to attach and remove the guards that go over the knee pads. I'm also using TLD Tbones but they are burly and the break in is going slow.

For the arms, it surprises me to see people wearing pads that only protect the elbow, a typical fall has my forearms hitting the ground first. One look at mine, Rally FR's, and the marks left on the pads shows they are doing their job. I never wear them XC or long uphills though. I've tried smaller lighter arms but they felt inadequate. I'm always on the lookout for something better.
 

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The 661 gear is nice stuff. I run the Race series storm trooper fore arms and Troy Lee Brian Lopes knee and shins to complete the look! I agree if it gets rocky start looking for a chest protector.

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I wish all I could do was climb

but what goes up must come down. Let's just say I've gotten paranoid since my wrist breakage. The few times I've gone OTB now I've been able to make a fist when landing (boy, is that NOT intuitive) and of course my elbows and forearms take the hit. I'm heading to Moab and for example, coming down Amasa Back, as slow as I go I still have gone down in a heap. I made a list of things I want intact when I return from this trip and elbows topped the list.

I used to smirk when I saw peeps with knee/shin/elbow/forearm pads on during xc rides before my accident, but getting injured (hey, I was lucky, it was only a broken wrist) has just made me appreciate all my working parts that much more.
 

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xcguy said:
but what goes up must come down. Let's just say I've gotten paranoid since my wrist breakage. The few times I've gone OTB now I've been able to make a fist when landing (boy, is that NOT intuitive) and of course my elbows and forearms take the hit. I'm heading to Moab and for example, coming down Amasa Back, as slow as I go I still have gone down in a heap. I made a list of things I want intact when I return from this trip and elbows topped the list.

I used to smirk when I saw peeps with knee/shin/elbow/forearm pads on before when on what I'd call a cross country ride but getting injured (hey, I was lucky, it was only a broken wrist) has just made me appreciate all my working parts that much more.
I am curious about your broken wrist. Seeing how I am currently in a cast with a broken right wrist. I have been in the cast for six weeks now and it seems like it is not healing. Although it is hard to tell with a cast on. I have constant pain through my forearm bones and was wondering if you felt the same thing during healing. Also do you have full movement of your wrist? My next Dr. appointment is on the 25th so hopefully the cast will come off.
 

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xcguy,

Just one word of caution. While elbow pads are great for not putting your hands forward in an OTB crash, they really don't protect your wrist much from direct hits.

I smacked the back of my wrist on a rock slab on lower Whistler DH last Summer and cracked my scaphoid. I had all the pads on, the only exposed joints were my hands and wrists ...

Anyway, I have been using Raceface/Roach elbow and knee pads and like them very much. They stay put on hard falls and offer great protection. Also, they are easy to put on and off so I never pedal long uphill sections with pads on. It takes just a few seconds to strap them to the pack and keep moving. Kyle Straits pedal much better but require taking my shoes off to put them on or take them off. Something else to keep in mind.
 

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On lighter duty rides that still make me feel a need for knee coverage I use 661 Tomcats. I got those after a buddy tipped me off about them. They're extremely comfortable on long pedals and the big benefit over veggie wraps is that they have a hard plastic shell. On more heavy duty runs I use Roach Rally FR. Other than being too hot to run year round, they're extremely comfortable and offer full protection. I used to run Dianese FR leg armor, which was a much cooler choice than the Roach stuff, but they offered poor protection for lower sections of my legs. My wife gets good coverage from the Large ones. On the DH days I run a Dianese shuttle suit. It is XL and still a bit small for a 6'1 person. Didn't realize I would be a XXL by Italian standard. That suit is pretty rock solid and relatively cool given how much plastic I'm wearing.

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There's a "broken wrist" and then there's a "broken wrist"

DIRTJUNKIE said:
I am curious about your broken wrist. Seeing how I am currently in a cast with a broken right wrist. I have been in the cast for six weeks now and it seems like it is not healing. Although it is hard to tell with a cast on. I have constant pain through my forearm bones and was wondering if you felt the same thing during healing. Also do you have full movement of your wrist? My next Dr. appointment is on the 25th so hopefully the cast will come off.
My doc wouldn't consider putting me in a cast without installing some hardware to pull the pieces back together but that was my particular case. So I had the operation, then a soft cast, then a hard cast. Mine was a mushed end of my radius and a fractured distal ulna. Yeah, lots of pain helped out considerably with judicious amounts of Vicodin. Now that the pieces were rejoined my doc told me it took about 6 weeks for the bones to heal about as much as they're going to. Really, I'm no doc, so I can't speak to your specific condition, but pain was my constant companion for months after my surgery and, no, I don't have full movement of my wrist. I was only able to work on my range of motion after my cast came off and it was a long road back to what I've got now. I tell you, I was more psyched to get that frikkin' cast off and begin therapy than anything. I got a dam speeding ticket on the way to the hospital. The cop didn't care about my cast, just my 42 in a 30. Dude, just let me get to my doctor's appointment, please?? PM me if you have any more questions or check out my own personal "broken wrist peep" thread at:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=252469

Good luck.
 

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I also use Roach Rally FR armor, the arms aren't the lightest but they are the only thing that seems to offer good protection and stay in place. I also have the KS knees, but they are taking a break after my switch to platforms. The Race Face armor jacket is a great piece of equipment too.

...and 661 pro bomber undershorts for lift days, they have saved my a$$, literally.
 

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since all the riding i do includes loose n' rocky i wear KS's and roach arm pads even when xc'ing with my flux.

the down side of the the KS's, beyond the fact that everyone and their mother are rocking them, is
A. the neoprene insides will give you a nasty rub-rash on longer rides so you need to wear something underneath them (im using cutoff legs from cotton Lady's stockings - kinky) and
B. their price went up to to a staggering $60...

given that I'm testing a pair of rockgarden knee pads i got for around $20. so far so good. haven't crash them yet, not for trying, but i can tell you they stay in place better and are better ventilated than the KS's.
 

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My doc wouldn't consider putting me in a cast without installing some hardware to pull the pieces back together but that was my particular case. So I had the operation, then a soft cast, then a hard cast. Mine was a mushed end of my radius and a fractured distal ulna. Yeah, lots of pain helped out considerably with judicious amounts of . Now that the pieces were rejoined my doc told me it took about 6 weeks for the bones to heal about as much as they're going to. Really, I'm no doc, so I can't speak to your specific condition, but pain was my constant companion for months after my surgery and, no, I don't have full movement of my wrist. I was only able to work on my range of motion after my cast came off and it was a long road back to what I've got now. I tell you, I was more psyched to get that frikkin' cast off and begin therapy than anything. I got a dam speeding ticket on the way to the hospital. The cop didn't care about my cast, just my 42 in a 30. Dude, just let me get to my doctor's appointment, please?? PM me if you have any more questions or check out my own personal "broken wrist peep" thread at:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=252469

Good luck.
Thank's and thank's for some insight as to I am in the middle of and for what I may be in for
 

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I tried on some Six Six One DJ Elbow Guards

They fit pretty good and have a real big plastic "shield". No forearm protection. The guy at the store dismissed them as just a skateboard park pad but I liked the way they could fit over some clothing. Anybody tried DJ Elbow Guards?
 

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its usually the forearm that takes the hit
..which is why I don't leave the house without my SixSixOne 2X4 guards. Also, it goes without saying, learn to break your fall with your forearms...not your hands.
 

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Think "mostly for Utah mini-epics" like tscheezy just posted
The cheapie Fox stuff I wear (knees) and Rockgardn stuff (arms) are great. The Fox models use a very breathable perforated foam backing and I drilled lots of 3/8" holes in it for major air flow-through. I also sewed a bit of lycra sleeve to the knee portion to hold them in place. Super comfy. You just need to be ready to mod the pads to your liking (a little sewing goes a long way to adjust strap length etc). I have some Kyle Straits too, and they are pretty HOT!

 

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I also sewed a bit of lycra sleeve to the knee portion to hold them in place. Super comfy. You just need to be ready to mod the pads to your liking (a little sewing goes a long way to adjust strap length etc).
You just made Aqua's birthday. :lol:
 

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What does Barney use? Those don't seem to cover the entire shin and are maybe a bit cooler. Does she use them for the entire ride or only the descents?


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The cheapie Fox stuff I wear (knees) and Rockgardn stuff (arms) are great. The Fox models use a very breathable perforated foam backing and I drilled lots of 3/8" holes in it for major air flow-through. I also sewed a bit of lycra sleeve to the knee portion to hold them in place. Super comfy. You just need to be ready to mod the pads to your liking (a little sewing goes a long way to adjust strap length etc). I have some Kyle Straits too, and they are pretty HOT!

 

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I love elbow pads...

Hot, muggy day, easy-ish two-hour ride... who needs elbow pads? Did this a couple of summers back. Yeowchy mama... :eek: I don't go anywhere without my 4x2 elbows now.

I also use 661 plastic-capped knee/shin Races with a thin neoprene knee warmer underneath , which kind of mimics those new TLD Lopes pads. I use good ol' Hammer neoprene knees on 'light' days. Bit too much going on in the 'real' world for me to go out unguarded these days.

I busted my wrist last year, too - luckily, it was a nice, clean scaphoid snap. Didn't impede me too much, but yeah, it gives you a bit of a heart-starter.
 

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