El Mariachi head angle?

Yes I would be very interested to know as well, maybe someone can jump in?

Entrenador said:

From Salsacycles.com:

"Fork measurements listed are for recommended Salsa CroMoto matching fork (80mm geo option) and RockShox Reba RL set at 100mm travel."

I understand that Salsa wants potential buyers to know that the frame will work well with both sizes, but with which fork does this measurement come from -- Is that with the 468mm A-C Cromoto fork, or is that with a 100mm Reba? These two forks have fairly different A-C lengths.

Thanks for the help.

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I believe you are correct on our assumptions.

IIRC, a "typical" 80mm travel suspension fork has an A-C of 468mm (unsagged) - like the CroMoto 29 fork. Most early 80mm 29er travel suspension forks had a ~468mm, and I believe most 29 rigid forks copy that A-C length. The de facto standard with the past few years is a 100mm travel suspension fork. Those forks have an A-C of ~490mm (unsagged - i.e. unweighted).

Hope that helps,

Peoples,

The information on the geo chart for the steel El Mariachi has been corrected. Thanks for pointing out the inconsistencies, sometimes with all the numbers flying around here, we mix some things up. As per the new footnote, the chart now correctly shows the geo for a 100mm sus fork at 20% sag.

If you are curious how the steel El Mariachi measures with any of Salsa's rigid 29er forks (CroMoto Grande, Fargo V2, or Enabler), check out the 2nd table listing of for the El Mariachi Ti. The wheelbase and standover are a little different due to the fixed C/S length and different tube diameters used in Ti, but the angles, BB drop, and fit numbers are virtually identical. Sorry we don't have a specific 80mm listing for the steel bike at the moment. We're are working on it, along with a bunch of other stuff that'll be out sometime in the near future.

-PK @ Salsa