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just fitted a shiftguide on my Tracer, but can't seem to rotate the arm back far enough t make the chain hit the guide roller on the granny ring.

Anyone else have this problem, and will it be ok, or will the chain be able to jam if it doesn't hit the roller?

 

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You're not going to find a guide that you can rotate enough to hit that bottom pulley. It should work ok. the problem is going to be the first time you go over a log and bash that pulley on it... say bey bey to it. I talked back and forth with intense and they recommended talking to MRP, but would not give me a specific model that would work properly... mainly because there isn't one. MRP told me to go with the G2 mini with the ibis mojo boomerang due to its bigger angle, but even it just barely hits the chain at the bottom pulley, and I've already broken the bottom pulley due to it being lower than the bash guard. my next option once this one is totally crap will be the MRP 1.X guide .

I know you are using a front derraileur, and from what I've learned, there are no options for it due to the lower linkage
 

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You can Dremmel a wedge in the roller slot of a Black Spire Stinger and use a flush mount tapered bolt to hold the roller inplace. It's not ideal, but was the closest thing I got to work with any sort of tension on the chain when in the granny gears or even the middle ring with the chain in the smallest cogs.
Even with that set up there was a hair width of room between the back of the Stinger and the lower linkage which meant the chain would rub in the granny gear as there was zero space to bend the Stinger back away from the chainrings.

Considering a Stinger retails for around $25 and a tapered bolt costs .25cents at a hardware store AND you can use your fancy new Turbo Charger bashguard it's not super expensive...assuming you own or know of someone who owns the means to grind a wedge in the Stinger bolt slot.

But don't feel bad. I have yet to see a new Intense anything with a correctly positioned chainguide. They're all canted back too far due to the placement of the chainstay-DH bikes included.
 

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Gleeke said:
http://www.e13components.com/product_xcx.html

Thinking of putting on of these on mine. Don't really need the other two rings....But I need to wait til I'm back on bike to decide.
Oi...I used the MRP X.1 on my Tracer VP with no luck. For whatever reason I would drop a chain in anything mildly rough. The only way I got it to work was when I mated it in front of a Stinger (throwing the chainline WAY out) but it alleviated dropped chains and I was able to get enough tension on the chain with the Stinger to create a single ring system that kinda worked on that funky frame.

The X.1 by itself just shed chains on that bike, even on sidewalk cracks and if you needed to back pedal to set up for something and hit a bump you were stopping. I would venture to e-speculate that the XCX would have similar results.
 

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i'm running an LRP (i think - borrowed off a mate) with a bash ring and it is a god-send, no more dropped chains - just like slcrockymountainrider i was dropping the chain on anything and gaffing up the lower link every time the chain got wedged between the bottom bracket and cranks. haven't had a problem since and don't seem to be bashing the pulley on anything?
 

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slcrockymountainrider said:
Oi...I used the MRP X.1 on my Tracer VP with no luck. For whatever reason I would drop a chain in anything mildly rough. The only way I got it to work was when I mated it in front of a Stinger (throwing the chainline WAY out) but it alleviated dropped chains and I was able to get enough tension on the chain with the Stinger to create a single ring system that kinda worked on that funky frame.

The X.1 by itself just shed chains on that bike, even on sidewalk cracks and if you needed to back pedal to set up for something and hit a bump you were stopping. I would venture to e-speculate that the XCX would have similar results.
What do you mean you put the 1.X in front of the stinger ? were you running it on the bottom of the chainring ?
 

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But don't feel bad. I have yet to see a new Intense anything with a correctly positioned chainguide. They're all canted back too far due to the placement of the chainstay-DH bikes included.
We havn't had any luck getting a guide to fit 100% (other than the XCX or FreeChucker) as far as rotation goes. The VPP (and even more with the VPP2) design require such a dropped chainstay that most guides will not fit. The DRS has a bit of a larger profile than say our new Heim2, and I feel that the Heim2 would be a slightly better fitting dual ring system for any VPP2 bike.

With the design of the chainstay and lower VPP linkage, there simply isn't enough room to fit any sort of guide properly rotated so that it is out of harm's way. Most guides are designed so that the Bashguard hits the ground first under full compression, but as shown above with the DRS the roller would hit the ground first.

If anyone wants to talk VPP2 on a specific frame, feel free to shoot me an email!

Cheers,
philip @ e*thirteen/theHive
 

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It still amazes me that none of the chain guide manufacturers has come up with a solution for this problem yet. I know, chain guides have to fit any bike frame on the market but there are examples that custom ones were made for special bikes (Lapierre, GT DHi). Seeing how many Intense and Santa Cruz bikes are around and probably will be sold in the future (I can't see them dropping the VPP2 anytime soon) there is quite some demand.
 

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This issue would keep me from getting a Tracer/Uzzi, unless I go with single chainring/chainguide setup (don't want HS).
 
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