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As of this morning there were a couple of minor blow-downs near the bottom and patchy snow higher up. The intersection at Flagline has a lot of snow still.

I think it's remarkable that Flagline opens in only four weeks and we're still seeing snow as a limiting factor. It's usually dry by now, right?
 

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Thanks for the help, Nat!
 

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Thanks for the help, Nat!
My pleasure. The trail needs a bit more attention but I cleaned up what I could without real tools.
 

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At least the snow may help keep poachers out of there until closer to the opening date (August 15th).
Please explain...is Robin Hood slaughtering the Kings deer?
 

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Many years ago, when mt. biking first appeared around Bend, the Flagline trail was a remote, high-country trail with little use. The story I've heard was there were some FS Wildlife Biologists observing the Elk behavior in the vicinity of Flagline when along comes some mt. bikers. The biologists made the determination that mt. biking disturbed the young elk and decided to impose a mt. bike closure on that trail in order to protect the calving elk. August 15 was the day they chose as that was observed as the time when the elk move to other areas.

So we have this closure in effect on Flagline trail each year until Aug 15. It isn't relevant whether or not any members of the public actually see any elk at all, and there really isn't a problem with us waiting until then to ride the trail. Each year, however it becomes more obvious that people are riding Flagline before the official opening day, but COTA's position is to ask people to please respect the closure. With lots of snow up there still, the "closure" is kind-of moot. Still, some people just can't wait.

Nat - surprising how much clearing can be done without tools, eh? Makes you wonder why small logs that are easily moved remain on the trail for weeks... Thanks again!
 

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Thank you for the clear explanation Woody! I appreciated the information very much.Curiousity satisfied.
 

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Many years ago, when mt. biking first appeared around Bend, the Flagline trail was a remote, high-country trail with little use. The story I've heard was there were some FS Wildlife Biologists observing the Elk behavior in the vicinity of Flagline when along comes some mt. bikers. The biologists made the determination that mt. biking disturbed the young elk and decided to impose a mt. bike closure on that trail in order to protect the calving elk. August 15 was the day they chose as that was observed as the time when the elk move to other areas.

So we have this closure in effect on Flagline trail each year until Aug 15. It isn't relevant whether or not any members of the public actually see any elk at all, and there really isn't a problem with us waiting until then to ride the trail. Each year, however it becomes more obvious that people are riding Flagline before the official opening day, but COTA's position is to ask people to please respect the closure. With lots of snow up there still, the "closure" is kind-of moot. Still, some people just can't wait.

Nat - surprising how much clearing can be done without tools, eh? Makes you wonder why small logs that are easily moved remain on the trail for weeks... Thanks again!
I've never poached Flagline trail. I kind of like having something saved up for later in the summer. Usually by August 15 I've ridden everything else, so it's nice to have something for the next course.

I've also noticed that sometimes there's a tiny little stick or other debris in the trail and that numerous people chose to simply ride around it, widening the trail in that spot. What's that all about? A lot of times I can flick the object out of the trail using my front tire as I go by.
 

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Nat, where did you start your ride? At Dutchman Sno-Park? I've thought about heading up there and just tooling around to as far as I can get before the snow.

If anyone's concerned, I am hitting Charlton/Lemish either Wed. or Thurs., I'll report on conditions then. Can't wait for that swim in Chalrton Lake!

Soucie, it is rather amazing what can be removed by hand. I have moved two incredibly large trees by hand so far this year, where a chainsaw would probably have been best. I barely avoided hernias, but at least I got 'er done!
 

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If anyone's concerned, I am hitting Charlton/Lemish either Wed. or Thurs., I'll report on conditions then. Can't wait for that swim in Chalrton Lake!

I barely avoided hernias, but at least I got 'er done!
Make sure to breathe. :eek:

Good luck on Lemish / Charlton. Have you seen this?:

http://www.dontbitemepatch.com/
 
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