[Bikesaredumb]

Hi!
You guys might remember me from such exciting build threads as this one

Beginners first frame build, start to finish. Long...

where I made this

You might also recognize me from the thread you're reading right now. I couldn't say.

That unbelievably stunning pink bike up there represents my first and only attempt at frame building. So, just like everybody else with this amount of experience, I'm happy to announce that I'm starting a bike company!



Kidding.

I am gonna take a big step out of my comfort zone and build a full sus bike. I've been told on this very forum something along the lines of "you're gonna hate your first 15 frames" or whatever, so I might as well build a full sus frame that I hate. It's gonna suck and that's cool, the road to bitchin' projects is paved with ones that suck. I know, bad idea, etc. Thanks. Noted.

Where this gets really f'n stupid is, I've decided that it might be hilarious to watch a guy who doesn't know how to build bikes, try to build a bike. That's fun, right? And if you think you hate reading what I write just wait to you listen to me talk! That's right, this is getting filmed and hurled out into internet land for your eager consumption.

Am I gonna teach you how to build your own frame? Nope. Am I gonna build a really cool thing that launches a business and a desire to build a better mousetrap? Absolutely not. Are we reinventing, or even slightly improving, the wheel? Not remotely. Are we gonna screw around, try to have a few laughs and maybe make something bike-like? You bet your ass. It would probably be best to think of it as less of a "how to" channel and more of a "why not" channel. Parental discretion is advised.

I've got nothing to sell you. I have zero interest in turning this into any kind of money making endeavor. I'm not a Framebuilder (capitol F) and don't want to be.

Well. Then. What exactly is the point? Don't know. What's the point of a new born baby? Maybe it's only interesting because it wasn't there before. I enjoy screwing off in the "garage" making stuff, I have a friend who enjoys making films. We'll do this for the fun of it until it's not fun anymore.

If that sounds like something you might be into, check it out. I don't give a **** if you subscribe and I'll never ask you to smash that thumbs up button, that's not important to me. This is a first go to get some stuff down and try to figure out a direction. It's got a little painting in it and a lot of bullshitting.

Enjoy. Or don't. Whatever.

And if anybody needs a preview of episode 2, here you go.

 

[stuartm2]

"Who wants to watch a guy who doesn't know how to build a bike build a bike?"

/me Raises hand

 

[shirk]

Yes soo much good in that video.

Spoiler alert...you can build it. I did. My second frame was a full suspension frame built with just a hack saw, hand files, bench vise and two flimsy L channels from the hardware store. No jig, no mill, no lathe, no welding table.

Looking forward to following along.

 

[Bikesaredumb]

"Who wants to watch a guy who doesn't know how to build a bike build a bike?"

/me Raises hand

Then you have come to the right place!

Yes soo much good in that video.

Spoiler alert...you can build it. I did. My second frame was a full suspension frame built with just a hack saw, hand files, bench vise and two flimsy L channels from the hardware store. No jig, no mill, no lathe, no welding table.

Looking forward to following along.

That's awesome! That definitely helps my confidence level. I'm sure I can make something rideable, and I'm having fun just messing around. Thanks for checking it out

 

[a_j_p]

I'm pretty excited to see how this shakes out. Very different attitude in your stuff I find entertaining and refreshing.

My first FS failed after about 6 months of decent riding but I've been learning a ton and am excited about the next (theoretically better designed) one. It was super fun to ride though while it lasted.

You will get there and it will be fun; regardless of it breaks or not, is amazing to ride or not, it will be fun.

 

[Bikesaredumb]

I'm pretty excited to see how this shakes out. Very different attitude in your stuff I find entertaining and refreshing.

My first FS failed after about 6 months of decent riding but I've been learning a ton and am excited about the next (theoretically better designed) one. It was super fun to ride though while it lasted.

You will get there and it will be fun; regardless of it breaks or not, is amazing to ride or not, it will be fun.

Thank you, that means a lot to me. I'll be tickled if it lasts 6 months, I kinda plan on doing trail bike, DH bike, HT, rinse, repeat for a little bit. So hopefully as things break I'll still have rideable bikes.

 

[127.0.0.1]

I wanted to watch it but so much swearing and 'jerkoff fabricator' throughout
nah, plenty of stuff to watch without that. maybe swear 3 times not 3.456e11 times

I do want to watch frankenbike builds but dang ....

 

[Bikesaredumb]

I wanted to watch it but so much swearing and 'jerkoff fabricator' throughout
nah, plenty of stuff to watch without that. maybe swear 3 times not 3.456e11 times

I do want to watch frankenbike builds but dang ....

No worries, I appreciate you giving it a shot. I'm definitely not everyone's cup of tea and I definitely wrestled with how I was going to present myself with the thought of appealing to a wider audience. But, this is how I talk. This is how I think. I'm not an engineer, I don't have any certificates of completion. If a friend asked me to describe myself, I'm sure "jerkoff wannabe fabricator" would come up at least once. You are literally just watching a couple buddies in a "shop" screwing around. This is just honestly how I talk.

For me, it was more important to be honest in my presentation. Like you said, there is plenty of other stuff to watch, and a lot of the time I (just speaking for myself here) find it disingenuous. I feel like I'm being pitched. I feel that I'm being sold, people want me to buy their bikes, or tools, or clothes or just buy into them as a personality so I'll keep smashing that thumbs up button and generating revenue. I didn't want to do that. I'm not trying to push a brand or a product or an idea, I don't want your money. The entire point of this exercise was to enjoy myself, if someone else can get something out of it, that's cool. If it's not worth wading through the language that bothers you, that's cool too.

I do appreciate you giving it a go, and I appreciate the feedback

 

[Ben.land101]

What kind of chaotic dumb-assery have I just witnessed?
Although,

Maybe after a couple of beers though.

 

[Ben.land101]

(Double Posted. My bad)

 

[Bikesaredumb]

What kind of chaotic dumb-assery have I just witnessed?
Although,
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Maybe after a couple of beers though.

Only the best kind!

I gotta tell ya, that image doesn't inspire hope for our future relationship you remember how that whole thing turned out, right?
In all seriousness, thanks for checking it out.

 

[shirk]

For me, it was more important to be honest in my presentation. Like you said, there is plenty of other stuff to watch, and a lot of the time I (just speaking for myself here) find it disingenuous. I feel like I'm being pitched. I feel that I'm being sold, people want me to buy their bikes, or tools, or clothes or just buy into them as a personality so I'll keep smashing that thumbs up button and generating revenue. I didn't want to do that. I'm not trying to push a brand or a product or an idea, I don't want your money. The entire point of this exercise was to enjoy myself, if someone else can get something out of it, that's cool. If it's not worth wading through the language that bothers you, that's cool too.

This this this.

I don't want to be pitched and every person that has watched more than 3 YT video's knows that "like subscribe share" helps the person that made the video so please for the love of Dog stop begging for the damn likes, get on with making interesting content and the likes will follow.

2nd one was good. Enjoyed it. I assume you split that chunk of square tube to make your tunnel for the shock to make the Santa Cruz link work?

 

[Bikesaredumb]

And we’re off. Kinda.

 

[Bikesaredumb]

This this this.

I don't want to be pitched and every person that has watched more than 3 YT video's knows that "like subscribe share" helps the person that made the video so please for the love of Dog stop begging for the damn likes, get on with making interesting content and the likes will follow.

2nd one was good. Enjoyed it. I assume you split that chunk of square tube to make your tunnel for the shock to make the Santa Cruz link work?

Thank you so much. The entire point here is to have some fun and make a thing, I’m not trying to be too serious.

That was the original plan for that tube. Notice it doesn’t look anything like the picture at the end of the first post? Right. That part about “if it doesn’t work we’ll chuck it and start over” is going to become pretty important in future episodes

Stay tuned, more to come!

 

[shirk]

I should have taken more pics on building FS #3, I used 0.125" flat plate with holes drilled to create a shock tunnel, plenty stiff. The cross tube that I dropped the seat tube on was too thin, this failed recently. I think it was an off cut from another frame tube and less than 0.035". If I was to do this design again I'd bend a piece to make the top of the tunnel than weld the two side (well braze, likely some overlap instead of a butt joint).

 

[Bikesaredumb]

I like that 👆

I was going to cap this with a piece of 3” exhaust tube for the nice radius and then plop my seat tube down on the top of that. But the”best” made plans and whatever else.
I’m actually pretty excited about getting to go back closer to my first design. Maybe it’ll work.

 

[127.0.0.1]

just cuss less in a video. that's all.

youtube algorithm will shut it down anyway (or shut you down) once it is scanned and screened and it finds all the cussing...people have lost accounts this way by being too liberal with the swears, it reaches a threshold....some swears OK but even the bots are set for threshold of cussing

no asking you to change too much really.
it will be far more entertaining I believe, slightly cleaner

 

[Bikesaredumb]

just cuss less in a video. that's all.

youtube algorithm will shut it down anyway (or shut you down) once it is scanned and screened and it finds all the cussing...people have lost accounts this way by being too liberal with the swears, it reaches a threshold....some swears OK but even the bots are set for threshold of cussing

no asking you to change too much really.
it will be far more entertaining I believe, slightly cleaner

You know, that does sound easy.

If it gets taken down, it gets taken down. I'm pretty sure I was really clear (yep, just double checked) about not caring about any of that.

Well, I'm not gonna ask you to change anything. If you believe you would be more entertained by a slightly cleaner video, you have pointed out that there are no shortage of those available on the platform, I would encourage you to enjoy any number of those videos. Thanks!

 

[Bikesaredumb]

On this episode of All Seat Posts, All The Time, everyone's favorite, more talking! Hooray!

 

[Bikesaredumb]

No matter what else happens, we've got that seat post/shock mount issue solved.