[Rikidc]

Does anybody know a XC bike, or downcountry with

• Multibar rear suspension, such as VPP, no single pivot
• Two bottle cages
• Modern geometry

Today most XC bikes are improving in several topics but rear suspensions are being sacrificed for lightweight

 

[PlanB]

Ibis Exie?


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[kevine1785]

Not sure about the waterbottle cages.. but check out the Polygon Siskiu D

Siskiu D | Polygon Bikes

Polygon Siskiu D is an all around XC trail bike that can handle everything from your fun local trails to all day Alpine epics. Learn more here.

www.polygonbikes.com

 

[brex17]

Intense Sniper T.

 

[kevine1785]

Also Rocky Mountain Element:

Element lineup | Rocky Mountain

Purpose-built to hit the precise sweet spot between lightweight cross country climbing prowess and technical precision, the Element is the best of both worlds and more.

www.bikes.com

 

[OttaCee]

Santa Cruz Tallboy

 

[shadowsports]

Does anybody know a XC bike, or downcountry with

• Multibar rear suspension, such as VPP, no single pivot
• Two bottle cages
• Modern geometry

Today most XC bikes are improving in several topics but rear suspensions are being sacrificed for lightweight

What's your budget? Hard to make good recommendations without that.

 

[Porkchop_Power]

Also Rocky Mountain Element:

Element lineup | Rocky Mountain

Purpose-built to hit the precise sweet spot between lightweight cross country climbing prowess and technical precision, the Element is the best of both worlds and more.

www.bikes.com

Rocky Mountain uses a 4-bar linkage. Not a bad design but not what the OP is looking for.

Also be very weary of any full sus bikes that claim 2 water bottles. Usually the 2nd will be small or impossible to reach or most worstest underneath the downtube catching rocks and muck.

 

[Rikidc]

Ibis Exie?

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Thanks! good example, seems quite new

 

[Rikidc]

Not sure about the waterbottle cages.. but check out the Polygon Siskiu D

Siskiu D | Polygon Bikes

Polygon Siskiu D is an all around XC trail bike that can handle everything from your fun local trails to all day Alpine epics. Learn more here.

www.polygonbikes.com

sorry, single pivot and no 2 water bottle cage

 

[Rikidc]

Intense Sniper T.

Very nice, and possible to buy in LBS but not 2 waterbottle cage inside main frame

 

[BicyclesOnMain]

Scott Spark RC?

 

[bjcccat]

Specialized EPIC, 2 bottles inside triangle, maybe the most tried and true 4 bar linkage.

 

[Rikidc]

What's your budget? Hard to make good recommendations without that.

4500€-5000€ max, and could do with frameset because I currently have a my18 Epic with several upgrades where to take components from

 

[Rikidc]

Specialized EPIC, 2 bottles inside triangle, maybe the most tried and true 4 bar linkage.

since 2018 it's single pivot (I own one )

 

[Rikidc]

Scott Spark RC?

version 2022 looks very tempting due overall concept (120mm bike with weight and geometry of 100mm XC), but it's single pivot

 

[brex17]

Very nice, and possible to buy in LBS but not 2 waterbottle cage inside main frame

Sizes L and XL have two bottle cages inside main frame. Sizes S and M have one bottle cage inside main frame and one bottle cage on outside of downtube.

 

[BicyclesOnMain]

version 2022 looks very tempting due overall concept (120mm bike with weight and geometry of 100mm XC), but it's single pivot

As a former Specialized dealer and a new Scott dealer, I can assure you that neither the Epic not the Spark are single pivot. The carbon stays no longer have a pivot near the rear axle, but they move like a traditional Horst linkage.

How your bike's suspension design affects its performance on the trail

In Part I of Underneath the Voodoo, we discussed the fundamental properties of bike suspension. In Part II, we apply this knowledge to understand popular suspension designs and examine how they affect the performance of our bikes on the trail. Updated with the following paragraph on the 19th of...

enduro-mtb.com

 

[abeckstead]

Wolf tooth makes a simple bracket that bolts to the bike frame, then you bolt two cages on side by side… double barrel water bottles!

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[MSU Alum]

As a former Specialized dealer and a new Scott dealer, I can assure you that neither the Epic not the Spark are single pivot. The carbon stays no longer have a pivot near the rear axle, but they move like a traditional Horst linkage.

How your bike's suspension design affects its performance on the trail

In Part I of Underneath the Voodoo, we discussed the fundamental properties of bike suspension. In Part II, we apply this knowledge to understand popular suspension designs and examine how they affect the performance of our bikes on the trail. Updated with the following paragraph on the 19th of...

enduro-mtb.com

Scott calls the spark single pivot.
"This single pivot suspension layout is based on our patented integrated suspension technology."
The Epic sure looks like it has a single pivot at the bottom and uses a linkage like the Scott to optimize ratios.
In both cases, it looks like the axle path describes an arc based on the length from the pivot point to the rear axle.
Am I missing seeing a linkage?