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http://www.ninerbikes.com/fly.aspx?layout=bikes&taxid=93

According to their webpage for the new 2011 version of the Niner WFO...the GEOMETRY page lists specs for 140mm fork or a 160mm fork....the only forks I know that are longer travel than the 140mm Reba and the 140mm Marzocchi's are:

150mm White Brothers 29er fork
175/180mm Manitou Dorado 29er

Accordingly I haven't seen anything or heard of anything in the 160mm range:ihih: Am I missing something? Why would they put specs of something that doesn't exist?
 

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Probably the max fork length allowed, perhaps applies to a lowered Dorado or lowered WB Groove? However, I'm hoping for what you're hoping for as well!
 

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Rock Shox Revelation 29. ;)
While I fully support 160mm of travel (I've been b!tching about it for 2 years now), to put it on a 32mm Revelation chassis vs. a 36mm Lyrik Chassis would baffle me for this segment of forks. Seems to me the most sense would be to do a 29er Air Solo Lyrik with Maxle in a tapered or full 1 1/8" and allow it to be internally travel adjusted from 160mm down to 120mm with spacers. It would hit a big segment of the 29er market this way. Or the same way with a 29er Fox Float 36. These two forks would hit the OEM market at a lower pricepoint than a U-turn, 2-step, or Talas.
 

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Guitar Ted said:
Rock Shox Revelation 29. ;)
I fail to see how that is any better than a Reba. I know it is aimed more at the AM crowd, but I don't see a lot of differences in the 26" chassis. Maybe it is subtle.
 

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Anyone know if it is possible to retro a uturn into a Reba? I am thinking of giving it a try.
 

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150mm White Bros

I was on the White bros site yesterday checking the status of the new Loop fork. I clicked on the order tab and there it is. The 29er version will be out in May and looks like it will be available in 150mm. I haven't even ridden my 2011 Fox yet and I cant wait to try the new Loop.
 

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I was on the White bros site yesterday checking the status of the new Loop fork. I clicked on the order tab and there it is. The 29er version will be out in May and looks like it will be available in 150mm. I haven't even ridden my 2011 Fox yet and I cant wait to try the new Loop.
Ahh but thats 150mm of travel, not the 160mm stated on the website. Also WB has had a 150mm travel fork for a few seasons now. Just doesn't seem like Niner would make such a large typo if something isn't coming out. Perhaps we'll see at Sea Otter, that's where Niner debuted the 140mm Reba.
 

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Ahh but thats 150mm of travel, not the 160mm stated on the website. Also WB has had a 150mm travel fork for a few seasons now. Just doesn't seem like Niner would make such a large typo if something isn't coming out. Perhaps we'll see at Sea Otter, that's where Niner debuted the 140mm Reba.
You are WAY overthinking this. Sometimes manufacturers choose arbitrary travel limits due to the axle-to-crown length and stress on the headtube. It's arbitrary because there may or may not be any forks designed with that travel. Ive seen some say "165mm" because back in the day the only forks with 170 were DC forks that would put too much stress on the bike, sometimes the limit is there because the designer realizes that if you have that much of a bigger fork, you can push the bike much further past what it was designed for, not just the headtube, but the entire frame. Could be a typo, could not be a typo, even if it's not a typo, it doesn't guarentee there is something comming out.
 

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You are WAY overthinking this. Sometimes manufacturers choose arbitrary travel limits due to the axle-to-crown length and stress on the headtube. It's arbitrary because there may or may not be any forks designed with that travel. Ive seen some say "165mm" because back in the day the only forks with 170 were DC forks that would put too much stress on the bike, sometimes the limit is there because the designer realizes that if you have that much of a bigger fork, you can push the bike much further past what it was designed for, not just the headtube, but the entire frame. Could be a typo, could not be a typo, even if it's not a typo, it doesn't guarentee there is something comming out.

But again, it doesn't make sense because people have been putting the Manitou Dorado 29er fork on the old WFO for a while at 180mm, even Niner gave the go ahead and team riders tested it at Keystone and Whistler that way...But since the Dorado isn't for the majority of the riders for this frame, the question remains....is or isn't there going to be a 160mm fork to get the described specs per their website? Time will tell.
 

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There WILL BE a 160mm 29er fork at some point in the future. I'll guarantee it. I don't know when, and Niner may or may not either, they're most likely just stating ahead of time that that frame can handle it when it arrives. I'm with Jayem on this one...
 

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I got nuthin from Marzocchi on this. Got a WFO that I'd love to put on a diet with something like a 160/36mm, maybe with that RC3 cartridge?
 

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Intense Knows Something Also?

I saw this on the Intense site today. Check out the fork in the build kit. Misprint or something in the future?

Tracer 29 XT Build Kit
Headset Cane Creek Headset Cane Creek XC Flush II 1.5 Taper to 1-1/8
Tires Kenda Tire Kenda Nevegal 29 x 2.2 60tpi/DTC (50sSA/60sSA/50sSA)/Folding Bead
Tubes Kenda Tube Kenda 29 x 1.9/2.125 PV
Wheel Front Sta Tru Wheel Front Speed Tuned 29r WTB SD 20TA White
Wheel Rear Sta Tru Wheel Rear Speed Tuned 29r XT 6-Bolt White
Grips ODI Intense/ODI w/End Plugs
Bottom Bracket Shimano Bottom Bracket XT BB-BB70
Brake Adapter Shimano Brake Adapter For Rear 180mm | Front 203mm
Brake Disc Shimano Brake Disc SM- RT79M 6-Bolt 180mm Rear | 203mm FRONT
Brake Front Shimano Brake Set XT SL-M770 Front w/o Disc 900mm
Brake Rear Shimano Brake Set XT Rear w/o Disc 1700mm
Cassette Shimano Cassette XT 11-36 CS-M771-70
Chain Shimano Chain XT CN-HG94 10SPD 118L
Crankset Shimano Crank Set XT 175mm x 42-32-24 FC-M770-10
Derailleur Front Shimano Derailleur XT Front FD-M771-10
Derailleur Rear Shimano Derailleur XT Rear RD-M773SGS
Shifter Left Shimano Shifter Front XT SL-M770
Shifter Right Shimano Shifter Rear XT SL-M770-10R
Fork Sram Fork Rock Shox 2011 Reba 29 x 20 x 160 1.5t Wht w/Sil
H-Bar Titec Handlebar Titec Hellbent ProLite 7075 1.5 x 31.8 Blk
Seatpost Titec Seat Post Titec Hellbent Honcho Prolite 15os x 31.6 x 350
Stem Titec Stem Titec Pluto ProLite 31.8 x 100mm Blk
Seat Velo Seat Sacred Heart Cr-Mo
 

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I'm with the 36mm folks out there. Any 160 without 36 stanchions is gonna be noodly, tapered HT and TA or not. I just don't see that being what an AM rider wants. I dream of a Knolly or DW linked 150mm travel 29er with a 68* HTA and <18'' CS... but not without a 36mm fork on it, especially not as a solid clyde who likes wheelie drops and charging rock gardens.

That said my sultan did well last year until I snapped the rear linkage and a spoke on the rear wheel after some serious skinny riding.
 
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