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Rode the Devils Backbone yesterday and discovered the rangers felt it necessary to fill in one of the best technical sections of the trail. This spot was a nice 3' staircase of rocks that presented a nice challenge for riders. Not now it's a nice smooth wheelchair ramp. IMO a disgusting example of trail maintenance. I say fix parts of the trail that has erosion issues and leave the rest. This was all rock that had ZERO erosion problems.

Before trail maintenance. :):thumbsup:
Devils Backbone #19 Video - Pinkbike

After trail maintenance. :madmax::madman:
How to ruin a trail. Video - Pinkbike
 

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Bummer...I was wondering if they were going to do this again. They did the same thing a couple of years ago and it took about a year for it to all wash/blow out to get back to the way it originally was. I rode DBB last weekend for the first time in a few weeks and noticed they had started trail "maintenance" by tearing out the 12" step up that was just around the corner and a little further up the trail so I kind of had a feeling that this might be coming.
 

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While I rather have the technical parts stay the way they were, this part of the trail was eroding. Not to sound harsh, but everyone who complains should volunteer to do trail work so you can influence things. I was part of Mountain High Trail Assoc (we sponsored sections of this trail), so I have a different point of view...
 

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BRING ON THE OVERLAND TRAIL CLUB PAVING MACHINE!!! They use it on all the other trails in the area. Look as Michaud trail. It used to be kind of fun, now its so bad the hikers complain about it too. They wont stop until you could wheel a gurney up it.

As for the rangers, most of those guys don't have a clue. I have done many trail work days in Lory and Horsetooth where the rangers would just start digging not thinking about erosion or how the trail would be used. Its pretty easy to design a trail for bikes and hikers and have it not erode with the first sign of moisture.
 

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Erosion? It was rock, wasn't it? Why did the stone step get removed?
 

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Erosion? It was rock, wasn't it? Why did the stone step get removed?
I've been riding this trail since 98'. This part of the trail looks nothing like it did. The trail is sliding down the hill; the original trail actually went over that big rock on the high side. The timber is there to try and stop this progression. So no, it's not all rock. As for the stone step, I'm also at a loss why it was removed. For tech, at least we have the back loop.
 

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Fair enough. I will say that I never rode that section and thought, erosion. The fact that the step was removed for apparently no reason does make me question other sanitizing like efforts.
That being said, I wasn't there and realize that I'm playing arm chair quarterback, so don't be offended... nothing personal.
 

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No offence taken:). I wasn't there for this trail work either, just thought some other view point would be good to mention. That said, not all trail work is good work, such as the water bars made of loose dirt, etc. Since we're ranting on this thread, how about the parking at Soderberg? 2/3 of the lot is horse trailer parking only. We got warning tickets last weekend, when there were no horse trailers in the lot. <rantoff/>
 

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Sorry but this section in question is all rock and now it's filled in with dirt and boulders as fillers. This is disgusting trail maintenance at it's finest. Rock does not erode dirt does.
 

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I agree that the best way to stop this from happening is working with the rangers and working on the trail with them. They could be getting complaints about safety etc. That spot in the trail is wide enough to have a safe line and a gnar line.
 

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I heard they did it for better rattlesnake fighting.

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I don't think you understand the concept of erosion.
Yeah the concept of erosion is so hard to understand. So I take it you're all for all the technical sections being manicured into wheelchair ramps.
 

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Like it or not, trail maintenance is done by management for the masses, not the elite who can ride tech. Complaints about maintenance will just frustrate managers who do not understand that technical sections are desired by some riders to give fun, challenging breaks to a trail ride.

Vent here on the forum, but remember that trails are not built for the biggest challenge, but for the lowest common demoninator
 

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Like it or not, trail maintenance is done by management for the masses, not the elite who can ride tech. Complaints about maintenance will just frustrate managers who do not understand that technical sections are desired by some riders to give fun, challenging breaks to a trail ride.

Vent here on the forum, but remember that trails are not built for the biggest challenge, but for the lowest common demoninator
I have to agree. The more people using any given trail the more it will need to be dumbed down. The more people that get taken out of a trail in an ambulance after getting in over there head. The more management will want to make it safer.
 
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