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I just noticed that Vecusu has wisely closed a BD related thread with this statement:

Thread closing. When it was about the bikes themselves it was marginally acceptable. But this has devolved into a discussion about the company. Start a new thread if you wish to discuss the existential nature of bikesdirect. I'll grab some popcorn if that happens.
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The thread did not bother me; but it was strange in terms of reaction by some members.
However, the thread helped me refocus on our mission.
Simply put: Providing High Grade Bikes at Lowest Prices That We Can

This is important to me and has been for 30 years. I have always had some criticism for doing this. Started when I began selling full nouvo record campy Colnago, Viner, Masi, and such for under $1000 - I was shocked how many people did not like that; but many loved it.

My feeling is it is an important mission to try to get cyclists on the best bike that they can afford; even though I know there are those that object to that.

In today's environment and economy it becmoes more important; I feel

Many may have heard; prices on bikes are going up - most companies have started with a 5% increase [that is only the beginning]

The best detailed reasons I have seen came from one of our suppliers:

1) The US dollar has lost 9% of its value to the major Asian currencies in the last 6 months. This is a significant issue for us as an importer, and the dollar continues to be highly volatile.

2) Raw material prices have skyrocketed in price; aluminum and steel prices are escalating without check. Recent flooding in Australia just raised iron ore prices by $500 a ton.

3) A flood in Indonesia resulted in a shortage of raw latex and rubber prices have gone up 40% in the last 6 months, with suppliers adjusting prices almost weekly.

4) Transportation costs are on the rise again as oil rebounds and impacts us on many levels, from moving product into the factory, shipping them to our warehouse and then sending on to you. Fuel prices will be going up, you hear it everywhere and we are already impacted with our transportation costs. We are already seeing this at the gas pump.

5) Inflation in Asia is very high, we were just informed the Chinese will raise minimum wage by 18% this coming March. Even though labor is not a high content on the cost of building a bicycle, it will result in increases.

6) Energy costs are rising and as a result the expenses in the manufacturing environment are rising along with them.


This is a forum on 29ers; so I should discuss my desire to get a nice multi speed AL 29er under $400 or a nice Ti 29er under $1700 or a nice FS 29er under $1300 - but some would object to details on that. And it maybe hard with todays increasing prices anyway.

But I think it might be interesting to talk about two examples of what we do:

Mini Velo: several factories presented me with the opportunity to introduce their Mini Velo in USA - one sample I got would have been $1500 to customers another would have been about $800. I thought these bikes would be fun 2nd, 3rd, or backup bikes for lots of people. But I understand not everyone has an extra $1500 laying around - so I designed 2 models that could be sold for under $300 delivered
Not for eeveryone but some cyclists will love these - with the help from a few forum members I was able to make some design improvements and we will try these out. Key to me is that people can afford them.

Classic City Bikes: the bikes that I saw as a kid in the 50s as being the import style bike from europe is back; made a bit more modern. Several makers have these but I felt the prices were just to high [as much as $600 for a single speed city bike and $900 for a 3-speed IGH]; so I reworked this concept a bit
and wanted to make this type of fun stylish practical bike available at the lowest cost I could. I wanted a bike at $199 delivered but for the reasons so well spelled out above I could only get a bit under $250. I think new riders, commuters, and just about any cyclist could enjoy an extra bike like this around the house. Key to me is that people can afford them.

These are examples of the existential nature of bikesdirect; our mission and what we do.
Our customers seem to like it and it brings us all a lot of joy to get people on quality bikes they can enjoy at a price that they can afford.
 

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I used to not care/stick up for you and your minions...I didn't have much issue with the OP's initial topic on the last thread....
But now with this thread..... :madman:
 

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I was enjoying the last thread especially as I wanted to discuss the semantics and spelling of spelled/spelt (one is a pedagogy, the other is a grain) as they relate to smelled/smelt.

While you can spell spelt, you can also smell smelt (depending on whether you're talking about a fish or a metallurgical process will impact your olfactory sensation).
 

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Oh, and one more thing, I'm sure BD isn't opposed to the company being discussed on these forums (or any forums) because he wisely knows that the more his company is being discussed, the more recognition he has. A friend of mine who works for US Divers always says, "Bad ink is better than no ink." Ask Jennifer Aniston, Christina Aguilera, and Angelina Jolie.
 

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wow. BD took my joke and ran with it. However, there is no 29er connection here so I am moving this soon-to-be train wreck to the general forum. Let the masses decide.
 

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Vecsus said:
wow. BD took my joke and ran with it. However, there is no 29er connection here so I am moving this soon-to-be train wreck to the general forum. Let the masses decide.
Sorry
I had no way of telling it was a joke

Maybe if it were marked JOKE like is

JOKE ----> A horse walks into a bar. The bartender asks, "Hey, why the long
face?"


Then I could have spotted it right away
 

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I think direct engagnement with forums is a bad idea for vendors and manufs. But hey, its your call. There is no filter on mediums like this.If you want an example of how to interact on a public forum with your customers, look at hanssc in ibis or Ken in Pivot.
take the beefs, warranty and *****ing to email, not the forum.
 

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Now back to the original purpose of the thread:

Now back to the original purpose of the thread:

Bikes are absurd. This thread has no purpose because nothing does. Where's my cigarettes and beret?
 

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cheap chinese crap...wow, we need MORE of that!
Which brand are you speaking of?
Just wondering if you know the ratio of sales by courty of origin for all popular brands of bikes?
 

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the_owl said:
I think direct engagnement with forums is a bad idea for vendors and manufs. But hey, its your call. There is no filter on mediums like this.If you want an example of how to interact on a public forum with your customers, look at hanssc in ibis or Ken in Pivot.
take the beefs, warranty and *****ing to email, not the forum.
Opinions are welcome

I do get PM and emails that support the idea of us on forums all the time
PLUS you will find many many posts by members who feel that all vendors should come on the forums and exchange ideas

I think vendors being on forums improves communication and fun; resulting in better products and services and more interest in our sport - I love coming on the forums when I have time

And Opinions are welcome; I like that
 

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BD provides a quality product at a great price.


Business 101 taught me that.

/thread.
 

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wyatt79m said:
Wow, another BD advertisement.....
whenever a manufacturer/retailer posts on a forum it's an ad. Bad ink is better than no ink. Detractors of any company would be better not to post on the threads and let them sink if they don't like them. Handle complaints/issues backchannel through PM's.
Just my $0.02
 

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Creating a company purely based on delivering the lowest possible price, is not good for the health of the industry as a whole.

If there is no profit, there is no need to be in said industry. Without said industry, say goodbye to local jobs.

I have no beef with other countries, they need jobs too. They should create them locally. I'd rather buy beef my neighbor raised, than some corporate beef giant in Kansas, etc.

I do take issue with a company being so selfish as to believe that by making the most low dollar sales, they are "helping" anyone but themselves.

When a local shop closes because too many of it's customers buy into Walmart style thinking, only to then have gas spike up to a level where it's no longer profitable to produce overseas and ship it here, then all the way to their door, what will those cyclists you long to help, do then?

You don't have to make a killing, or buy a third home in the Caribbean, but would it kill you to make enough so as to be on par with other players? Then you'd sell bikes because they had actual merit, like design, quality, ride characteristics, etc, not just price.

I'd feel better selling someone a bike because they had a good solid buying experience, not because I was willing to take it in the ... harder any other shop in town.

Can't wait for gas to hit $6 a gallon, then all you giant carbon footprint cheap gas beneficiaries will fade away like ice cubes on the sidewalk in July.
 

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Come on, the OP is just posting a thinly veiled ad.

Kill the freakin' thread already.
 

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MendonCycleSmith said:
I have no beef with other countries, they need jobs too. They should create them locally. I'd rather buy beef my neighbor raised, than some corporate beef giant in Kansas, etc.
What's wrong with Kansas?
 
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