Littering PISSES me off. I have actually yelled at teammates in road races for throwing gel packs. I've chastised other racers also during races. It's funny, when I ride I always stop and pick up garbage on the trails, my friends don't even ask why I'm stopping anymore because they know I'm picking up some lazy azzholes trash.flargle said:Is there something that magically makes them not litter? Too much trouble to put it in the jersey pocket? Or do you just want to look like the guys in the Tour de France?
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First I don't use gels.whybotherme said:i think it is likely that at least some people assume that paying for the race includes being cleaned up after. not saying it is right, but i think that might contribute.
There's this: http://www.profile-design.com/fuelbelt/accessories/gel-flask-holder/ (can't vouch for it though, usually keep my gel flask in my jersey pocket). I've seen other gel flask cages too.whybotherme said:maybe i can find a holster for one that will keep it on the strap of my camelbak for D-ville. (dunno if it will fit in a cell phone holder...)
That's a rediculous statement! If you are talking the political right wing, nothing I can think of is more right wing than hunting and you say hunters don't litter. OTHO hiking is very left wing and they don't litter. As a right wing person I see mountian biking leaning far more to the left than right.hannibal smith said:Hunters and hikers are usually very good about keeping it litter free, it is the cyclists around here (Southern California) that are the big litterbugs typically. Cycling is considered a "right wing" sport, and the stereotype rings true, I am afraid.
hannibal smith said:I was joking- It's funny because the assumptions with political views are so rampant. Cycling around here is pretty apolitical, which is very nice, nothing worse than politics to mess up a ride.
As to litter.............yesterday I was freediving off the coast and found a plastic label floating, I stuffed it in my wetsuit. Freedivers and Spearfishermen have an unwritten code about litter, we don't discard waste, and if we see it, we have to pick it up. I would think that Mountain Bikers would not litter.
Don't forget the cigarette butts. For some reason smokers seem to think that they can litter anywhere and everywhere.chomxxo said:I cycle through a wildlife management area daily and I'm sorry to say that where I live, "The Sportsman's Paradise," hunters litter, a lot. It makes me sick, but what else can you expect from people who are essentially draining the environment of resources for fun? Leave no trace my foot, my ATV tracks, my overgrown 4x4 pickup, Milwaukee's Best cans, Doritos bags, and spent shells.
You're obviously have an anti-hunting bone to pick, but regardless, hunters are as a group more responsible for wilderness preservation than any other group in the US, by a long shot. They are also typically very concerned with the land and management, and litter very little. If you do see those things in the fall (when the hunting season is open), then it is likely you just have one group of bad apples using that land, as it certainly isn't indicative of hunters as a group. I can almost guaruntee that some of what you see (beer cans?), has nothing to do with hunters using that land, but because of the anti-hunting bias you expressed, you want to assign blame to the undeserving.chomxxo said:I cycle through a wildlife management area daily and I'm sorry to say that where I live, "The Sportsman's Paradise," hunters litter, a lot. It makes me sick, but what else can you expect from people who are essentially draining the environment of resources for fun? Leave no trace my foot, my ATV tracks, my overgrown 4x4 pickup, Milwaukee's Best cans, Doritos bags, and spent shells.
Weird thing, I haven't seen much at races after that one so I like to think we are not that bad as a whole... I use either a gel flask or Gel-bot bottles...
