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Dinged my Id

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JM01

Discussion Starter · Jul 9, 2007

Dropped my Id on Saturday and put a small dent in the left seatstay...no crack, but it bent the stay enough to seize the rotor against the piston...

...is this serious?...should I try to straighten the stay? and will the bike be safe to ride if I do?...I've contacted Ellsworth and hope to hear soon.

This happen to anyone here?

Geez

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lidarman

· #2 · Jul 9, 2007

Wow, that is quite the dent.

I think if it bent the stay enough that the wheel doesn't track right, you are going to have to get a new one.

Bending it back is really not a good idea since it will only weaken it more.

JM01

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 9, 2007

lidarman said:
Wow, that is quite the dent.

I think if it bent the stay enough that the wheel doesn't track right, you are going to have to get a new one.

Bending it back is really not a good idea since it will only weaken it more.

Geez

chad1433

· #4 · Jul 9, 2007

Good one! Hope you got a corresponding scar to show the "ladies"...

JM01

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 9, 2007

chad1433 said:
Good one! Hope you got a corresponding scar to show the "ladies"...

yep...peddle shredded my shin and calf ...shoulder got dinged as well...leg was a bloody mess hiking back to the trailhead (wheel is seized), but it looked worse that it was

ventana1

· #6 · Jul 9, 2007

Oh, such a bummer. I hate that for ya really. **** happens. Sucks.
But I gotta totally agree with Lidarman, that is too much of a bend to ignore.
That structural member is far too likely to collapse in a buckling failure now.
Straightening will just make it weaker. Try to get a new one... you pretty much have to really. If you find it impossible to get a new one, fixing this one... Gesh, I would take it to the best local bike builder who builds with Aluminum. You could straighten it in a press, weld an aluminum doubler plate around the bent area, probably get it heat treated to bring it back to full strength. The builder will know how to do all this. And it will cost ya couple hundred or so maybe, but it is fixable. I'd hold out for a new one from somewhere if I were you. Good luck and let us know what happens

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bakalboy

· #7 · Jul 9, 2007

dang! that looks nasty! well put it this way, at least you're riding your bike hard and that is the way to do it! :thumbsup:

JulesYK

· #8 · Jul 9, 2007

Used/Warrantied-Bike Part

I did roughly the same thing to my Truth, which is a relatively uncommon 2006 model with brake bosses on the seatstays. Bike fortunately still rides fine, but I was worried about what would happen if I had to replace the part because I use v-brakes. I had my shop contact Ellsworth (took months), and I eventually got a used seatstay off a warranty-return bike, and only had to pay a nominal amount for it. You may be able to do the same for an Id part.

Steve from JH

· #9 · Jul 9, 2007

I think the Moment or Epiphany seat stays are still compatible with the Id. I could be wrong though.

JM01

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jul 9, 2007

Steve from JH said:
I think the Moment or Epiphany seat stays are still compatible with the Id. I could be wrong though.

Yep...I'm told that the warranty doesn't apply to suicidal rock garden riders, but Ellsworth will ship a new seatstay for $299.00 (just not sure if this is Cdn or U.S.). LBS is checking to see if they can repair the old one...but new is an option...Apparently it's the same stay as the 2007 Truth.

Hopefully I'll be back in the saddle before too long

JM01

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jul 9, 2007

ventana1 said:
Oh, such a bummer. I hate that for ya really. **** happens.

when we got to the top of the hill on Saturday...we now know to turn back

Geez

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aries14

· #12 · Jul 9, 2007

Getting a new seatstay is the way to go. You will pay close to $300.00 getting it fixed and it wont be the same. If it goes again, you will spend that money twice.

lidarman

· #13 · Jul 9, 2007

aries14 said:
Getting a new seatstay is the way to go. You will pay close to $300.00 getting it fixed and it wont be the same. If it goes again, you will spend that money twice.

My guess is a seatstay is around the price. I know chainstays are and they include bearings.

ColoradoPaul

· #14 · Jul 9, 2007

I recently had to replace the whole rear end of my Id. A "friend" of mine drove over it with his truck. Seat stays, chain stays and rockers. I think it was 280 each for the chain stays and seat stays. I also had to replace the chain stays a few months back from a crack. Each time it took less than a week to get the parts after I ordered them.

The new stuff is way beefier BTW, the new seatstays and asimetrical chainstays are 10x stiffer compared to the originals. Its like a new bike now. Definitely worth it to buy some new ones.

paul

JM01

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jul 9, 2007

ColoradoPaul said:
I recently had to replace the whole rear end of my Id. A "friend" of mine drove over it with his truck. Seat stays, chain stays and rockers. I think it was 280 each for the chain stays and seat stays. I also had to replace the chain stays a few months back from a crack. Each time it took less than a week to get the parts after I ordered them.

The new stuff is way beefier BTW, the new seatstays and asimetrical chainstays are 10x stiffer compared to the originals. Its like a new bike now. Definitely worth it to buy some new ones.

paul

Think that I should spring for the new chainstay as well?...I'm now thinking of fixing the seatstay, selling the bike, and buying an Epiphany...my LBS has a built green one (no longer available) that looks like I should be on it.

What you think?

ColoradoPaul

· #16 · Jul 9, 2007

JM01 said:
Think that I should spring for the new chainstay as well?...I'm now thinking of fixing the seatstay, selling the bike, and buying an Epiphany...my LBS has a built green one (no longer available) that looks like I should be on it.

What you think?

Well...
if you are going to sell it, then no.

If anything I would replace my Id with something heavier, so the beefier rear end is a real possitive for me. IMO if you ride it hard your going to crack the original Id chain stays eventually anyways. I have never felt comfortable jumping mine or doing drops until I got the new rear end. Im 200lbs and ride it pretty hard.

JM01

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jul 9, 2007

ColoradoPaul said:
Well...
if you are going to sell it, then no.

If anything I would replace my Id with something heavier, so the beefier rear end is a real possitive for me. IMO if you ride it hard your going to crack the original Id chain stays eventually anyways. I have never felt comfortable jumping mine or doing drops until I got the new rear end. Im 200lbs and ride it pretty hard.

well...this is Ontario and not much opportunity for hard XC riding...problem on Saturday was that we were exploring some new trails in the most advanced section of Blue Mountain and blundered into a rock filled hiking trail with a steep descent...

...love that adrenelin rush, followed by a flip over the bars...too bad about the bike though.

jalea

· #18 · Jul 10, 2007

Hey Colorado...did you have to spend $280 each for the rear end parts?? This would equate to $1120.00 ??

osokolo

· #19 · Jul 10, 2007

rear end of his bike...

jalea said:
Hey Colorado...did you have to spend $280 each for the rear end parts?? This would equate to $1120.00 ??

he was talking about, not rear end of his body you sick turd...

bike parts dont cost that much....

JulesYK

· #20 · Jul 10, 2007

$299 seems high (if US)

JM01 said:
Yep...I'm told that the warranty doesn't apply to suicidal rock garden riders, but Ellsworth will ship a new seatstay for $299.00 (just not sure if this is Cdn or U.S.). LBS is checking to see if they can repair the old one...but new is an option...Apparently it's the same stay as the 2007 Truth.

Hopefully I'll be back in the saddle before too long

I paid $190 for a new set of chainstays, and like $50 for a used set of seatstays off a warrantied bike since they don't make them with brake bosses anymore.

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