Huh? Its the same frames in the UK as the US! Its just the UK site has the old frames on still, as well as the new, so you can compare. Your "santa cruz guys" are talking out of their arses, quite frankly.Kid Bro Sweets said:thanks for the info but the santa cruz guys say not to use the uk site b/c it's oem is different than the North American market. The 08 on the uk site looks like it has the old swing arm.