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I was talking to the Push guys about fork tunes and they were adamant about not using a Pike on a 650B setup due to the lack of clearance when the fork bottoms.....as in severe endo potential when your wheel comes to a sudden halt. Some people were putting in spacers to limit travel to avoid this, but they wouldn't do that.

I had understood from posts and the fork thread that a Pike would clear a Neo 2.3.

I guess Push could just be conservative, but this gives me pause before pulling the trigger on putting a 650B on the front of my 5 Spot.

Pike users, please weigh in.

Thanks
 

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Maybe the 2010 Pike has been redesigned. I haven't heard that, but its possible.

I removed my 2008 Pike coil and had about 7mm crown clearance when totally bottomed as I recall. And the arch had about 5mm. Plenty. No spacers needed. My Lyrik is slightly tighter clearance than my Pike at the arch.

Maybe they were thinking of the Fox 32 forks which do rub the crown with a new Neo-moto 2.3 if you are able to bottom one (no one seems to be able to bottom within 3/4 inch without modifying the Fox 32 forks air or coil).
 

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I've got a Pike that's been owned by another shop guy and myself. It's run a 650B by both of us. It's been bashed and bottomed until it clunked for mercy. The Neo 2.3 doesn't touch the crown or arch in any of those conditions. Perhaps PUSH is doing like nearly every other business and warning us not to do it and not participating in any use, recommendation, or modding of 26" forks for 650B use. If you think about it, they really can't. Any puss who ends up managing to bugger himself up by allegedly or in reality crashing his bike because of a 650B that was in a 26" fork at the recommendation of a said company will quickly find a snake oil lawyer to beat down said company and shake them down for whatever coin they can. I'm not saying there aren't ever any real and true lawsuits worthy of honoring, but by and large they are driven by greedy, opportunistic leeches. It's what our legal system has come down to. So don't expect a company to jump on board with things like this. You're on your own...or if you do send your fork to PUSH, just have them do their magic without mention of the fact that you'll run a 650B. It won't affect the tune IMO. Darren is a good guy, but he's not stupid. Just tell him to sprinkle his magic dust on your fork. We've had a good deal of his product through our shop, and we haven't had any complaints. I've got one of his PUSH'd Fox RC rear shocks with the full race tune, and it is awesome.
 

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Really any fork designed to take a 26 x 2.6 will take a 27.5 x 2.35 as the O.D. of the tires are identical (actually in many cases, its slightly greater on the 26 x 2.6). They'll apply the exact same leverage to the lowers also so the whole "bigger wheel loads" line like fox feeds people is just so much crap as to make me laugh.
 

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DeeEight said:
Really any fork designed to take a 26 x 2.6 will take a 27.5 x 2.35 as the O.D. of the tires are identical (actually in many cases, its slightly greater on the 26 x 2.6). They'll apply the exact same leverage to the lowers also so the whole "bigger wheel loads" line like fox feeds people is just so much crap as to make me laugh.
I don't know, DeeEight...I had a Michy DH32 2.8, and it was still a tiny bit shorter than a Neo 2.3. I don't think the DH32 was particularly small for its stated size either. My DH32 would fit in all my Marz forks...Z150, Super T, and 66SL...but the 2.3 Neo is almost touching the arches to the degree that I'd never try it in any of them. That's not to say that perhaps someone's 2.6 might be taller, however.
 

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I am on my second Pike 650b setup. Ran a Pike Dual air 2.3 Neomoto now on a Pike U-turn coil 2.3 Kenda Nevegal - no issues.
 

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Purs said:
no issues on my Pike U-turn coil and 2.3 Neomoto after quite a few miles.
Quite a few miles?...when did that happen you deadbeat?:lol:

Bronte is open, and I'm going to be spending a lot of time out there for those who actually want to ride.:p
 
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