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soon i am going to be building my own bike from the frame up and selling my Gem, i was going to has it be a white and pink combo, and i was looking into some diety cranks. are they any good? i saw someone post a pic of a bunch of broken ones. also can you run a bash on them??
 

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I'll put in a vote for the wethepeople Royal sanko cranks. I have a set in grey, but I know they come in white, or red, or black as well, all with euro bb's. proven set up. are you running with a geared set up? which kind of bash, you can get a bmx sprocket with a built in bash, such as the Macniel or S&M. I'm running an Animal lite, and it has the option of a bolt on bash guard. or if you're using gears and a guide, you can get an e.13 guide-ring that is compatible.
that said, I have no first hand experience with the Deity's, so can't help you there, but like I said, I spent my money elsewhere....
as for the white and pink... is this for valentine's day? good luck trying to sell that in a year, as your resale will take a dump on itself.
 

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Pink??????

What's up with everything Pink these past two years??? Ahhh just another FAD in two years everyone will be saying "What was I thinking"!!!
 

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BikeSATORI said:
I'll put in a vote for the wethepeople Royal sanko cranks. I have a set in grey, but I know they come in white, or red, or black as well, all with euro bb's. proven set up. are you running with a geared set up? which kind of bash, you can get a bmx sprocket with a built in bash, such as the Macniel or S&M. I'm running an Animal lite, and it has the option of a bolt on bash guard. or if you're using gears and a guide, you can get an e.13 guide-ring that is compatible.
that said, I have no first hand experience with the Deity's, so can't help you there, but like I said, I spent my money elsewhere....
as for the white and pink... is this for valentine's day? good luck trying to sell that in a year, as your resale will take a dump on itself.
do you have a link to manufacterer
 

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soon i am going to be building my own bike from the frame up and selling my Gem, i was going to has it be a white and pink combo, and i was looking into some diety cranks. are they any good? i saw someone post a pic of a bunch of broken ones. also can you run a bash on them??
deity 4130 cranks are everything youd expect them to be.

i know alot of people riding deity cranks, including myself and i can happily say that i dont think youll be breaking a set anytime soon. but just for the record, if somehow you do...? deity has a crash replacement policy and limited life time warranty on all of there products. which means if you break any deity product within 2 years of purchase theyll give you 50% off a crash replacement and cover all manufacturer defects etc.

you can run a bashguard but why bother? keep it simple/light and run an e.13 LG-1.

here are a few reviews on them...

http://www.bustedspoke.com/review_deity_crankset.php
http://www.hcor.net/modules.php?name=MReviews&op=show&rid=12
http://www.revolutionfreeride.com/revfr2003/main/gearblog.asp?gc=Deity_crankset_2005

get yourself a set, you wont be dissapointed. plus they look unreal...
 

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Hardcore Newbie,
Thanks for the post and interest in the Crankset...
I have listed some information below for you in regards to your questions:

1) Bash- You bet, running a bash or even setting them up around a chain guide is not a problem. What separates the deity crankset from many other BMX 3 piece cranks on the market is that they have been designed with a MTB in mind, not a BMX. That is why they come with longer spindles to accomodate 68 and 73mm BB shells...allow enough spindle to crankarm engagement, so that setting them up to any chain guide on the market is not a problem...weigh lighter than a lot of the aluminum DH cranks on the market...and come in 170mm length for crankarm clearance on low BBs (instead of 175 and 180mm).
They also utilize standard shimano/park tools to install the BB cups instead of the conventional crescent wrench used by almost every other BMX company. The reason that this is important is because getting a wrench to clear the counter step'd boomerang on many chain guides can be impossible, so using a standard MTB tool is key.
To outfit them with a bash, you have a couple of options:
a) We offer our 4B DH Sprocket that is designed around an 8 or 9 speed chain and is machined out of 7075 T6 aluminum in a 4B 104 pattern. This basically replaces your standard spider + chainring which increases stiffness, reduces weight, and allows for an easier set up. They come in 34, 36, and 38T sizes...
The 4B DH Sprocket is available to fit any 19 mm BB spindle on the market (Standard) and is also available in a 48T splined format (Splined).
E13 is the other company who offers a similar idea (their Sprocket is in a 5B pattern and available in a 36T).
b) The second option is picking up any aftermarket spider and running it with a chainring. FSA makes a cost effective and strong option which will not kill the bank account. They come in two different formats, for single ring use and for 2-3 ring use. So, even if you want to run a middle and granny up front...that is not a problem either.

2) Broken Crankset- We have sold over 9,000 cranksets globally and have only had 14 crankarms (not sets) break. Most of these arms were destroyed by riders who self profess how hard they are on their parts and if it was not our Crankarm, it would have been someone elses. The Crankarms in the picture that you are inquiring about were all from one rider. It is not something that we are proud of, but I can be the first to say, that our Cranks (which are not over built heavy 3 piece cranks), may not be the best option for him as we have thousands of people running them problem free and reassured that we are here for them for the long haul. Are we still here to support him?...of course.
If you want to read unbiased reviews that may shed some light on the BMX Cranksets on the market ...check out:
http://www.bmx-test.com/cgi-bin/reviews.cgi?category=cranks
Companies have dedicated warranty departments to field all of their daily calls. Of course we are not that large of a company and also do not have notorious warranty issues, so for a company as young as we are, we are proud to stand behind parts that we feel can withstand abuse while still being competitively light.
Like BJ mentioned, we offer a limited Lifetime Warranty on Crankarms, spindles, Stems, and Handlebars, We also offer a 2 Year limited Warranty on the remaining product...
On top of that we also offer a 2 year Crash Replacement Policy, where any broken part, including saddles etc, that is damaged from a crash or repeated bails received 50% off a replacement.
If we had problems with our product, we would not stand behind it the way we do or we would not be in business.
Either way, if you have any other questions do not hesitate to ask and feel free to also drop us a line at 503.372.5549 or even e-mail me at [email protected]
Thanks for the interest, support, and keep riding hard!
Regards,
Eric
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deity said:
Hardcore Newbie,
Thanks for the post and interest in the Crankset...
I have listed some information below for you in regards to your questions:

1) Bash- You bet, running a bash or even setting them up around a chain guide is not a problem. What separates the deity crankset from many other BMX 3 piece cranks on the market is that they have been designed with a MTB in mind, not a BMX. That is why they come with longer spindles to accomodate 68 and 73mm BB shells...allow enough spindle to crankarm engagement, so that setting them up to any chain guide on the market is not a problem...weigh lighter than a lot of the aluminum DH cranks on the market...and come in 170mm length for crankarm clearance on low BBs (instead of 175 and 180mm).
They also utilize standard shimano/park tools to install the BB cups instead of the conventional crescent wrench used by almost every other BMX company. The reason that this is important is because getting a wrench to clear the counter step'd boomerang on many chain guides can be impossible, so using a standard MTB tool is key.
To outfit them with a bash, you have a couple of options:
a) We offer our 4B DH Sprocket that is designed around an 8 or 9 speed chain and is machined out of 7075 T6 aluminum in a 4B 104 pattern. This basically replaces your standard spider + chainring which increases stiffness, reduces weight, and allows for an easier set up. They come in 34, 36, and 38T sizes...
The 4B DH Sprocket is available to fit any 19 mm BB spindle on the market (Standard) and is also available in a 48T splined format (Splined).
E13 is the other company who offers a similar idea (their Sprocket is in a 5B pattern and available in a 36T).
b) The second option is picking up any aftermarket spider and running it with a chainring. FSA makes a cost effective and strong option which will not kill the bank account. They come in two different formats, for single ring use and for 2-3 ring use. So, even if you want to run a middle and granny up front...that is not a problem either.

2) Broken Crankset- We have sold over 9,000 cranksets globally and have only had 14 crankarms (not sets) break. Most of these arms were destroyed by riders who self profess how hard they are on their parts and if it was not our Crankarm, it would have been someone elses. The Crankarms in the picture that you are inquiring about were all from one rider. It is not something that we are proud of, but I can be the first to say, that our Cranks (which are not over built heavy 3 piece cranks), may not be the best option for him as we have thousands of people running them problem free and reassured that we are here for them for the long haul. Are we still here to support him?...of course.
If you want to read unbiased reviews that may shed some light on the BMX Cranksets on the market ...check out:
http://www.bmx-test.com/cgi-bin/reviews.cgi?category=cranks
Companies have dedicated warranty departments to field all of their daily calls. Of course we are not that large of a company and also do not have notorious warranty issues, so for a company as young as we are, we are proud to stand behind parts that we feel can withstand abuse while still being competitively light.
Like BJ mentioned, we offer a limited Lifetime Warranty on Crankarms, spindles, Stems, and Handlebars, We also offer a 2 Year limited Warranty on the remaining product...
On top of that we also offer a 2 year Crash Replacement Policy, where any broken part, including saddles etc, that is damaged from a crash or repeated bails received 50% off a replacement.
If we had problems with our product, we would not stand behind it the way we do or we would not be in business.
Either way, if you have any other questions do not hesitate to ask and feel free to also drop us a line at 503.372.5549 or even e-mail me at [email protected]
Thanks for the interest, support, and keep riding hard!
Regards,
Eric
deity
WOW :eek: :eek: Talk about Customer Service!!!!

:thumbsup: Eric
 

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BJ- said:
deity 4130 cranks are everything youd expect them to be.

i know alot of people riding deity cranks, including myself and i can happily say that i dont think youll be breaking a set anytime soon. but just for the record, if somehow you do...? deity has a crash replacement policy and limited life time warranty on all of there products. which means if you break any deity product within 2 years of purchase theyll give you 50% off a crash replacement and cover all manufacturer defects etc.

you can run a bashguard but why bother? keep it simple/light and run an e.13 LG-1.

here are a few reviews on them...

http://www.bustedspoke.com/review_deity_crankset.php
http://www.hcor.net/modules.php?name=MReviews&op=show&rid=12
http://www.revolutionfreeride.com/revfr2003/main/gearblog.asp?gc=Deity_crankset_2005

get yourself a set, you wont be dissapointed. plus they look unreal...
Not too mention they are a small company and everyone rides. They are great to deal with and an email or phone call to Eric will get you a prompt answer.

-Javier
 

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Just another vote of confidence...

Eric is a great guy and runs a great company.

He has a long involvement in the bike industry (he even helped Knolly out back in our super duper early days) and has earned a phenominal reputation. You definitely can NOT go wrong with their components and customer service.

Cheers,
 

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dam that is awesome CS when someone from the company actually comes right out and fully answers your questions! i may get a pair if i still have problems with my saints...just a bit unsure about weight?
 

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BJ- said:
deity 4130 cranks are everything youd expect them to be.

i know alot of people riding deity cranks, including myself and i can happily say that i dont think youll be breaking a set anytime soon. but just for the record, if somehow you do...? deity has a crash replacement policy and limited life time warranty on all of there products. which means if you break any deity product within 2 years of purchase theyll give you 50% off a crash replacement and cover all manufacturer defects etc.

you can run a bashguard but why bother? keep it simple/light and run an e.13 LG-1.

here are a few reviews on them...

http://www.bustedspoke.com/review_deity_crankset.php
http://www.hcor.net/modules.php?name=MReviews&op=show&rid=12
http://www.revolutionfreeride.com/revfr2003/main/gearblog.asp?gc=Deity_crankset_2005

get yourself a set, you wont be dissapointed. plus they look unreal...
You said why bother running and Bash guard? Well.... when your riding a trail and you you roll over something or land on something that is higher than your BB, or if your doing urban assault and hit some concrete objects...... well, thats why alot of people have bashguards:thumbsup: not trying to be a d!ck or anything, you know alot more about bikes than me, just stating some reasons.
 

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ebfreerider510 said:
dam that is awesome CS when someone from the company actually comes right out and fully answers your questions! i may get a pair if i still have problems with my saints...just a bit unsure about weight?
Crank and chainring combo isn't too much more than Saints. What's a few more grams? After all it isn't a super duper ultra light granny gear using XC race bike.
 

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the set ive seen had lots of powdercoating in the splines. I personally run profiles. while the profiles dont have powdercoating in the splies, i give the splines a good cleaning with solvent and a wire brush. then i clean the spindle (axle) as well.

then coat the spindle and crank splines with anti-seize. this will keep your steel spindle and steel arms from rusting together. my profile crank arms come off the axle with just s slight pull with bare hands - no tools required.

the more time you spend preparing the cranks, the easier they will be in the future to come off.



you can see the copper anti-seize here. the anti-seize pictured above is silver, it works the same. i just happened to have copper onhand.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Jimmy-pop/DSC00014.jpg

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