[culturesponge]

the mrs's crappy old "out & back" wheelset is getting to be abit of a slog for her - so we're giving her circa 2008 DT 4.2 rims + 32/28h SuperComps + DT 440 & Specialized Stout hubs @ approx 1650g the boot for a wheelset that'll be alot more fun for her to ride in the rough

rims


ZTR Crest 26" 28h rim #2


ZTR Crest 26" 28h rim #1


really no need for these sticker - just a deadweight - but will use silver marker to put preffered tire pressure near valves so i won't forget & over inflate


Stans website has 340g for the average weight for the 26" Crest's


12g underweight - score :thumbsup:

rear hub


'10 DT Swiss 190 CL 28h (with hollow 18 pt. star ratchet)


DT Swiss 18 pt. hollow star ratchets (just a tad lighter than the 36 pt. star)


DT Swiss 36 pt. star ratchets


2010 DT Swiss centrelock adapter #4


matte black ceramic mod centrelock adapter (for 160mm rear rotor & 9.2g lighter than a DT Swiss centrelock adapter)


2010 DT Swiss centrelock lockring #1


PRC Procraft centrelock lockring #1 (4g lighter than a DT Swiss centrelock lockring)

front hub


'10 DT Swiss 190 CL 28h


'10 DT Swiss centrelock adapter #2


matte black ceramic mod centrelock adapter (for 180mmm front rotor & 5.4g lighter than a DT Swiss centrelock adapter)


2010 DT Swiss centrelock lockring #2


PRC Procraft centrelock lockring #2 (4g lighter than a DT Swiss centrelock lockring)

spokes & nips


8x 268mm Sapim Super Spokes


8x 266mm Sapim Super Spokes


28x 1.8 x 12mm Sapim Polyax Super Spoke nips

tubeless


2x NoTubes Olympic valves


2x Stans Olympic steel valve collars


2x Purely Custom black ano alloy valve collars


1 scoop of Stans booger juice


541 ERD rims like Crest or Podium MMX need approx 5-6g of 21mm yellow tape

28h DT 190 CL hubs from treefort
28h Crest rims from Universal Cycles, Oregon
266 + 268mm Sapim Super Spokes + black Polyax nips from Starbikes, Germany
...it could be a long wait for the spokes as they have yet to be shipped

weights
316g - 190 CL 28h hubs
670g - 2x ZTR Crest 28h (stickers weighed 1.8g)
208.6g - 56x Sapim SuperSpokes
21.3g - 56x Sapim Poyax nips

1215.9g - very approx final total

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...edit to add & update pics + reduce blah...

 

[TigWorld]

Nice weight for a Crest wheelset. Nice light versions, my pair weighed 352 and 352g each. I'm starting to think my kitchen scale is not the most accurate thing.

Hopefully starbike have your spokes in stock as I've just waited a bit over 2 weeks for some supercomps to come in and ship. They are, however, now in transit (but they won't get here for the weekend ).

 

[culturesponge]

thanks. we've been "unlucky" with the rims on all our wheel builds so far - its a 1st to finally land a rim that's underweight & i'm chuffed to bits

...what do you think - lighter rim on the front or back?

hope your spokes arrive alot sooner in Ozzy than mine will in SoCal - Starbikes has the superspoke's on stock but i added some extra nips to my order & caused a billing glitch

post a pic of your wheelset when its done :thumbsup:

best

 

[TigWorld]

Lighter rim on the front for sure.

 

[biglines]

Newb question, is it lighter to go with a center lock hub plus adapter or is it lighter to go with a IS 6 bolt hub and titanium rotor bolts? I have been dreaming up my next race wheelset and this question just occured to me. Maybe could save some weight in this area since i plan on using IS 6 bolt rotors.

 

[customfab]

Newb question, is it lighter to go with a center lock hub plus adapter or is it lighter to go with a IS 6 bolt hub and titanium rotor bolts? I have been dreaming up my next race wheelset and this question just occured to me. Maybe could save some weight in this area since i plan on using IS 6 bolt rotors.

If you are comparing apples to apples a center lock XT rotor and hub is lighter than a 6 bolt version. I would guess he is using some crazy aftermarket rotors though. and IIRC the 190 hubs only come in center lock, I really wish this would become standard fitment, lighter, easier and better hub geometry.

 

[culturesponge]

rotors, tires & skewers for Crest wheelset

If you are comparing apples to apples a center lock XT rotor and hub is lighter than a 6 bolt version. I would guess he is using some crazy aftermarket rotors though. and IIRC the 190 hubs only come in center lock, I really wish this would become standard fitment, lighter, easier and better hub geometry.

no, at least not for this "out & back" wheelset

wife's approx 130lb all kitted up with knees pads ect, so in theory she could get away with Podium MMX's on the milder scenic trails she's happy riding - but were overdue to go back & finish the North Umpqua River Trail this year

front tire


Continental X-King Protection 26 x 2.4 tire with black chili goodness

front rotor


Formula R1 180mm floating rotor with black spider

rear tire


Continental X-King Protection 26 x 2.4 tire with black chili goodness

rear rotor


Formula R1 1-piece 160mm rotor with custom matte black ceramic spider

skewers


DT Swiss RWS Titan skewers, with black lables

will build with the lighter rim on the front wheel - t'was a daft question really

best

...edit to add skewers pic...

 

[DavidR1]

Just got my Crest wheelset today. Looking forward to trying them out.

Not nearly as bling as this set though.

 

[culturesponge]

playa playa

Just got my Crest wheelset today. Looking forward to trying them out.

Not nearly as bling as this set though.

argh! ...when you wrote bling - you didn't mean...



...did you?

i peel stickers, blot out graphics with marker pen & even repaint components to avoid "bling" :cryin:

29er Crest's for your racebike? ...what do they weigh & what tires are you going to race?

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[DavidR1]

29er Crest's for your racebike? ...what do they weigh & what tires are you going to race?

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Well, DT190's are pretty bling:thumbsup:

Crest for my race bike for sure. Haven't weighed them yet, but that may be a while as the tires are already installed. Starting the season with Ikon's, but may change the rear out to a Small Block 8 or Racing Ralph depending on condition. The RR may see some duty on the front as well.

 

[WR304]

i peel stickers, blot out graphics with marker pen & even repaint components to avoid "bling" :cryin:

You'd do anything to avoid riding a blingy bike like this one then.:thumbsup:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=7710510&postcount=286

My bike has a massive decal saying "carbon" on the handlebars. Unfortunately the bike somehow manages to be incredibly heavy at the same time.:eekster:

 

[culturesponge]

Well, DT190's are pretty bling:thumbsup:

Crest for my race bike for sure. Haven't weighed them yet, but that may be a while as the tires are already installed. Starting the season with Ikon's, but may change the rear out to a Small Block 8 or Racing Ralph depending on condition. The RR may see some duty on the front as well.

argh! i hate you!

...i'm peeling off those 190 hub stickers - you can't possibly call plain black anodised hubs "bling" then! :smilewinkgrin: :ciappa:

after such a rubbish winter your due for a brilliant dry & hot (but not too hot) spring & summer - so my bets are on RR

good luck

 

[culturesponge]

You'd do anything to avoid riding a blingy bike like this one then.:thumbsup:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=7710510&postcount=286

My bike has a massive decal saying "carbon" on the handlebars. Unfortunately the bike somehow manages to be incredibly heavy at the same time.:eekster:

lol! - that's not a "blingy" bike build - chose the orange frame + fork to be seen in traffic - self preservation is not "bling"

but just you wait ...carbo lift will make the a9c frame + fork perhaps 200-300g lighter ...just have to ding the frame or keep it long enough that the niner 5 year warranty runs out

http://www.ninerbikes.com/fly.aspx?layout=bikes&technology=true&taxid=281

have some almost matching orange reflective tape to blot the graphics on the a9c - but have not used it yet - because in all honesty i don't hate the billboard niner graphics half as much as it thought i would - its like they are almost hidden in plain sight especially with such a vivid orange colour :thumbsup:

g'wan post your bike in the weight weenies "post your bike" thread - i want to see pics + spec list

best

 

[DavidR1]

argh! i hate you!

...i'm peeling off those 190 hub stickers - you can't possibly call plain black anodised hubs "bling" then! :smilewinkgrin: :ciappa:

Nah, it would be much easier just to send those 190's up here. I can send you something less blingy in return no problem:thumbsup:

The RR is a good tire. I'm anxious to try out the Ikon though. From what I have read/heard, better sidewall and faster rolling. As long as the grip is close (which it appears will be based on tread pattern) then I'm game to run these for sure. And they are significantly cheaper to boot.

 

[culturesponge]

¡¡blackmail!!

...if/when i win the lottery - hubs are on me ...but only if you win the race you enter riding riding them - otherwise they are coming straight back :thumbsup:

bought those 190's for my a9c's enve wheelset - but the wife needs them more than i do

correct exact tire pressures could be crucial - best invest in a Schwalbe digital pressure guage (or similar)

http://www.schwalbe.com/gbl/en/prod...50&tn_mainPoint=Produkte&tn_subPoint=Zubehoer

good luck

 

[DavidR1]

¡¡blackmail!!

...if/when i win the lottery - hubs are on me ...but only if you win the race you enter riding riding them - otherwise they are coming straight back :thumbsup:

Cool, make sure you pick up that ticket on the way home then:thumbsup:

Although chances of me winning a race this season are slim. Just moved up a Cat so it will be a whole new ball game.

So what hubs are going on the Niner now?

 

[culturesponge]

will pick up two tickets :thumbsup:

being a Brit - competition is not all about the winning & glory - but every now & then its probably rather nice

stupid delays has lost enve a customer for their tubeless ready carbon rims - plus the a9c really won't need a back-up wheelset unless it goes racing

tbh the a9c frame + fork is so stiff & unforgiving (no compliance) that the bike really needs a flexy semi-disposable wheelset - so rampaging about offroad doesn't risk a permenant compression of my precious already battered vertebrae - & from what i understand the enve carbon rims build up the stiffest mtb wheels to be had - so probably not the best choice for my rigid carbon stomper bike anyway.

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[WR304]

g'wan post your bike in the weight weenies "post your bike" thread - i want to see pics + spec list

It's still not quite finished being updated. I might even have to find the bathroom scales and weigh it. It's the opposite of your bikes though. Every component change seems to add weight. My bike manages to be expensive, unreliable and heavy all at the same time. That takes some doing.:eekster:

Some lightweight wheels like your ones would help make it a lot lighter. The Powertap disc rear hub isn't exactly light. The rear wheel is 1250g approx by itself. I was talking about getting a light front wheel to go with the new fork, but then saw the UK prices and decided a basic wheel would do fine.

The new Fox F100 Terralogic fork seems quite nice though. Hopefully it will be more reliable than the Specialized E100 fork (not difficult).

http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=7814299&postcount=494

.

 

[culturesponge]

It's still not quite finished being updated. I might even have to find the bathroom scales and weigh it. It's the opposite of your bikes though. Every component change seems to add weight. My bike manages to be expensive, unreliable and heavy all at the same time. That takes some doing.:eekster:

Some lightweight wheels like your ones would help make it a lot lighter. The Powertap disc rear hub isn't exactly light. The rear wheel is 1250g approx by itself. I was talking about getting a light front wheel to go with the new fork, but then saw the UK prices and decided a basic wheel would do fine.

The new Fox F100 Terralogic fork seems quite nice though. Hopefully it will be more reliable than the Specialized E100 fork (not difficult).

http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=7814299&postcount=494

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its a saga, with all the probs & grief you've had to endure - Specialized should have given you a brand new fork.

really i blame the English countryside muck ...with all that mad cow pooh mixed in - it'll destroy any quality bike component in a matter of hours (or days, weeks, months)

not much wrong with my vintage epic that new pivots & seals wouldn't fix (touch wood) - so your fundimental problem is your training & racing on the wrong continent!

...when does your racing season start in the UK?

 

[WR304]

its a saga, with all the probs & grief you've had to endure - Specialized should have given you a brand new fork.

really i blame the English countryside muck ...with all that mad cow pooh mixed in - it'll destroy any quality bike component in a matter of hours (or days, weeks, months)

not much wrong with my vintage epic that new pivots & seals wouldn't fix (touch wood) - so your fundimental problem is your training & racing on the wrong continent!

...when does your racing season start in the UK?

You can usually ride year round. I haven't done it for a long time but events like the Salisbury Plain Challenge at the start of the year are good fun.

http://www.spambiking.co.uk/newsFullStory.asp?storyID=70&storyType=

My Specialized E100 fork always seemed to suffer with internal issues - leaks around the head seal and brain cartridge causing a loss of platform, rather than anything related to dirt getting inside. The Fox F100 Terralogic fork brings its own set of problems of course. It will be interesting to see how well it holds up.