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I´m in the market after a wheelset to my new frame (Ibis HD 12 x 135 mm Thru) ,I´m between Mavic Cross max SX or Easton Haven.Wich one is better?How much is the weights?Are threre some changes in the 2011 Mavic SX from last year models 2010?
 

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I think the Easten Havoc wheel is is a better comparison to the Crossmax SX since I'm guessing you probably need a 20mm front hub as well as the 12mm rear (Haven is 15/9mm FR/RR)

As far as weights, they are probably comparable. I say comparable because I have the Crossmax SX wheelset and Mavic claims they are 1750g but mine weigh in at a touch over 1800g. Easton claims the 2011 Havocs are 1800g.

As far as I know, there are no changes to the Crossmax SX wheels from 2009 to 2011. However, I would recommend you steer clear of the 2008 models as I have heard too many issues with rear freehub issues that were supposedly cleared up in 2009.

Another point to note, the 2009 Crossmax SX hub has 48 points of engagement, whereas the previous were 24. I also believe that Easton has 24 points of engagement so be sure to factor this into your decision as well.

All that said, my next wheelset will be a custom build with Hadley hubs laced up to Stan's Flow rims. After the downtime and expense of replacing a busted Crossmax spoke, I'm steering clear of the proprietary stuff. Hadley's also a super durable and adaptable hub with better engagement. Hope this helps!
 

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Any idea of what the final weight on those Hadley/Flow set would be?
 

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I was just trying to figure that out myself...

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Any idea of what the final weight on those Hadley/Flow set would be?
I collected the component weights online to try and figure out the final build weight and it looks like it would be around 1945g (if you believe the published weights). Definitely heavier than the Easton Havoc or Crossmax SX but a much better build in my opinion. You could save some weight by going with Stan's Arch rim or DT Super Comp or Revolution spokes but I'm thinking this is the ideal build for what I'm looking for.

Hadley/Flow Wheelset:
- Stan's Flow: 470g x 2 = 940g
- Hadley 20mm front: 194g
- Hadley rear: 365g (QR hub weight - not sure of difference with the 10mm thru axle)
- DT Competition Spokes: 382g (64 spokes)
- DT Black Brass Nipples: 64g (1g per)
TOTAL: 1945g
 

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Cool, thanks!

That's reasonable given the burly and reliable build. How much can one expect to pay for that set, around $700?
 

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Just a note that the Easton Havens have a published weight of 1650g. Haven's are available in a 20mm front hub and are available in 12mm on the back. Both 142 and 135. I run Hope II/Flows on my Blur LT and love them. Heavier than the Easton Havens but very strong and not overly heavy. They weigh 1862g with yellow tape and valve stems.
 

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Relayden said:
Cool, thanks!

That's reasonable given the burly and reliable build. How much can one expect to pay for that set, around $700?
That's about right on the money. When I'm ready to pull the trigger on these I'm planning to have Larry at Mountain High Cyclery build them for me. I got a set of Hope/DT 4.1 wheels from him a few years ago. He's got a stellar reputation here on the forum, good prices and the build has been rock solid. He has some representative prices up on his website if you're interested.

http://www.mtnhighcyclery.com/wheels/index.php
 
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