I don't see where that's a good option... dicking around with your position just to avoid toe overlap ain't really a good idea. The fore-aft saddle-BB position (along with height- duh) is critical to fit, which is more important on road bikes than mtb. A set-back seat post and shorter stem won't affect toe overlap by themselves, but could adversely affect the rider's comfort, again more important on the road since the rider is on more of a static position compared to a mtn bike. Shorter cranks *might* help, but often the change isn't enough. And don't even think of moving your cleats up to pull those toes back. A skinny low profile tires would help a little but is no cure. As mentioned, it's just something to be aware of and usually isn't a problem unless riding fixed... and even then shouldn't matter much since you'll be going slow when it happens, i.e., when going fast you won't turn the bars that much.obionespeedonly said:Good to hear Andy C got back to you like that. Classic Surly service. One option I see he did not mention, which I will re-iterate here is "combine a shorter set of cranks, a set-back seatpost, and maybe a shorter stem to modify your riding position", that, or like it said, get used to it. One you're used to it, it's cool.