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My Cotic BFeMAX has landed on the West/Wet Coast of Vancouver Island. I am glad I ordered pretty fast when I did as they are completely sold out and it'll be months for the next shipment. This bike's main mission is to replace my Knolly Endorphin as my winter bike. It's actually got more aggressive geo than that FS bike, but of course lacks the monkey motion out back. I surprised myself with how much I liked my Daambuilt Mega Krampus this past winter and it was setup with a nod to long/fast touring style rides. I figure with more fork and knobby tires I can make the BFeMAX even more fun to shred in the winter here. :cool:

https://www.cotic.co.uk/product/BFeMAX


I'm waiting on some parts and deciding if I am going to try and re-use an old 275er fork I have or get a new 29/27+ fork. So it will be a while until this bike gets rolling. On the plus side that gives me lots of time to deal with all the small details like frame protection and mounting water/cargo that often get rushed when I am excited to just get the bike out on the trail.



The 275er fork I have is a 150mm Pike that has an AtoC similar to a 140mm 29er Pike. So the geo will look like this.



If I buy a new fork it's going to be either a 150mm or 160mm 29er fork so the geo will be something like this.



The frame colour is a really nice blue, but unfortunately it's hard to photograph. The top photo and the one at the bottom are the best representation of what it looks like in real life. :cool:



FWIW - Cotic was very easy to deal with. Their online store is simple to use. I rec'd the frame from the UK to the far west coast of Canada in 10 days. Cost was ~$920CAD that includes a spare hanger, frame bag and shipping. No duty, but I did pay sales tax when it arrived.

 

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I have been pack-free on my bikes for a few years now so first thing I do is figure out how to carry my water/gear on the bike.

The BFeMAX has 4! sets of water bottle mounts:

- 1 under the TT [where you see that frame bag]
- 2 on top of the DT [where you see the pink bottles]
- 1 under the DT [where I have the larger clear bottle]

The frame bag shown isn't the one from Cotic. It was out of stock so it's being shipped later. That's a Rogue Panda XL sized TT bag mounted upside down. It actually fits pretty well. I would only put a pump, plugs, tube and tools in here. Stuff that I only need when I have a rare mechanical.



The Cotic bag will fit up in the front of the main triangle. Not sure if I'll have to give up on the upper water bottle when it's mounted or if I can fit both in at the same time? :confused:

Although it's primary mission will be as my winter whip...with so many water bottle mounts and easy cargo capacity I can see it getting pulled out for some summer alpine epics. :)
 

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True story I was drinking beer and goofing around on YT when I came across Steve's video over on the Hardtail Party channel and he pushed me over the edge so I ordered the BFeMAX. Thanks Steve! :cool:
 

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I have been pack-free on my bikes for a few years now so first thing I do is figure out how to carry my water/gear on the bike.

The BFeMAX has 4! sets of water bottle mounts:

- 1 under the TT [where you see that frame bag]
- 2 on top of the DT [where you see the pink bottles]
- 1 under the DT [where I have the larger clear bottle]

The frame bag shown isn't the one from Cotic. It was out of stock so it's being shipped later. That's a Rogue Panda XL sized TT bag mounted upside down. It actually fits pretty well. I would only put a pump, plugs, tube and tools in here. Stuff that I only need when I have a rare mechanical.



The Cotic bag will fit up in the front of the main triangle. Not sure if I'll have to give up on the upper water bottle when it's mounted or if I can fit both in at the same time? :confused:

Although it's primary mission will be as my winter whip...with so many water bottle mounts and easy cargo capacity I can see it getting pulled out for some summer alpine epics. :)
Nice buy. I got the grey and am currently building it with fast rolling tyres for some bigger days exploring.

The two bottle mounts on the downtube become kind of redundant if you use the supplied cable guides on points for securing the dropper cable though..I've ended up using the bottom two and the top one to secure the dropper cable outer and the remaining two in the middle for the bottle mount that I guess I'll be using zip ties to secure the cable to the bottle cage to stop it rattling.

Did you request a spare hanger and frame bag with your order? I missed out there if you didn't.
 

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Nice buy. I got the grey and am currently building it with fast rolling tyres for some bigger days exploring.

The two bottle mounts on the downtube become kind of redundant if you use the supplied cable guides on points for securing the dropper cable though..I've ended up using the bottom two and the top one to secure the dropper cable outer and the remaining two in the middle for the bottle mount that I guess I'll be using zip ties to secure the cable to the bottle cage to stop it rattling.

Did you request a spare hanger and frame bag with your order? I missed out there if you didn't.
I did buy a spare hanger and a frame bag at time of purchase. They are in the pull down menus as options.

You can mount bottles on top of the same mounts used for the cable guides so you should be able to mount two bottles on the top of the downtube regardless of how you route the dropper cable.

I'm glad you got a frame. Wow. Did they sell out fast or what? I'll look forward to seeing your complete bike. Post up some photos when you are done. The more BFeMAX porn in this thread the better! ;)
 

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How does the BFeMax compare to the SolarisMax that was recently announced? https://theradavist.com/2020/06/cotic-updates-the-solarismax-all-mountain-hardtail/


The simple answer is the BFeMAX is the burlier more aggressive cousin of the SolarisMAX. The more towards XC or trail your riding is the SolarisMAX would be the better choice. The more towards all mtn-Enduro your riding is the BFeMAX would be the better choice. Obviously there would be overlap in the middle.



I like the brazeon setup of the BFeMAX better - blue bike above. The SolarisMAX [Orange bike above] used to have a similar setup, but they went nuts with 8 bolts on the top of the DT and none underneath. Seems odd as I'd want to put a big water container under the DT for marathon rides or bikepacking which you'd think was the SolarisMAX's forte. So I am confused by that change. :confused:
 

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I'd love to have one of these frames, but I wonder how much shipping/taxes would be for delivery to the U.S. (?).
 

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Went with the old school headtube badge.

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Was that an option you could select or were you able to ask them for the old one?

Looks like there are still a lot of people who prefer the old badge from the discussion on the STW forum. I get why they changed it but I kind of liked the old one.

Looking forward to seeing how the bikes turn out!
 

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Was that an option you could select or were you able to ask them for the old one?

Looks like there are still a lot of people who prefer the old badge from the discussion on the STW forum. I get why they changed it but I kind of liked the old one.

Looking forward to seeing how the bikes turn out!
I asked for one to be included and the frame showed up with one fitted and a spare. Very happy with that! Not a fan of the new head badge at all.
 

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True story I was drinking beer and goofing around on YT when I came across Steve's video over on the Hardtail Party channel and he pushed me over the edge so I ordered the BFeMAX. Thanks Steve! :cool:
I can relate. Steve is having a really "bad" influence on me... Can't stop searching for the ideal hardtail for me since I subscribed to his channel. To complement my Ripmo, I think the Solaris would be a better match for me, but I really like the look of the BFE Max. I might get a frame eventually and do a "slow" build like you... Or a MC at unbeatable price at the end of the year...
 

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I'd love to have one of these frames, but I wonder how much shipping/taxes would be for delivery to the U.S. (?).
Shipping is included in the price. Note the list price on the site includes 20% VAT that partially gets deducted when you put the frame in your cart so the price you pay is less than the listed price for a UK buyer.

In Canada we pay federal and provincial sales taxes on international shipments so it costs the same in taxes as if we bought it at a LBS for that price. There are no duties on bike frames from the UK. Not sure how taxes are applied in your state.

The BFeMAX is sold out so I threw a BFe in my cart.

- initial price is 549 UK Pounds is $923CAD.
- once I set my address as Canada it drops to 505.50 UK Pounds or $849CAD after VAT is removed. Shipping is covered to Canada/USA in this price.
- I would pay normal local taxes on $849CAD when the frame arrives.
 

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@vikb, thank you.
No problem. Cotic's BFeMAX marketing spew below:

The BFeMAX is a crazy fast, super tough, 29er hardtail. It's the result of gene-splicing our award winning, super fast SolarisMAX 29er trail hardtail, with our tough-as-old-boots, 27.5" wheeled BFe do-it-all fun machine.

If you're looking for the fastest descending hardtail possible, then you're in the right place. With up to a 160mm fork and 29 inch wheels, the BFeMAX screams 'Come and have a go'. There isn't really anything this bike won't jump into with both feet: Jumps, drops, big mountains, hacking about in the woods and steamrollering down just about anything, this is the bike you need to embarrass your full suspension riding mates. Are you hard enough?

There's enough room for meaty 2.6” tyres and still space for mud. The big wheels carry momentum up and along, then let you grab it by the scruff of it's neck on the way down, with speed and stability all day. We have carried over the legendary toughness of the BFe with it's Reynolds 853 down tube spine, and Cotic FM custom butted tubeset throughout the rest of the frame for the classic Cotic ride feel.

BFeMAX turns the speed up to 11 with the big wheels; it doesn't really understand it's a hardtail!
Although not mentioned above the BFeMax will also clear 27 x 3.0" tires. :thumbsup:
 

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I can relate. Steve is having a really "bad" influence on me... Can't stop searching for the ideal hardtail for me since I subscribed to his channel. To complement my Ripmo, I think the Solaris would be a better match for me, but I really like the look of the BFE Max. I might get a frame eventually and do a "slow" build like you... Or a MC at unbeatable price at the end of the year...
Ha! We need a HTP support group! Damn you Steve!!!!! ;)

My GF has a RSD MC and one of my friends is about to buy one. If you want the best value to performance for an aggressive hardtail I think the MC is hard to beat. Great geo. Great build kits. Great price.

No doubt the Cotic frames are nicer and I am picky AF plus I enjoy my custom builds so paying more for exactly what I want is worth it to me, but if I just wanted to click "Buy Now" and shred at a very competitive price I'd probably get a MC.

The good thing is if your choice is between a Cotic or a MC you can't make a really wrong decision. :)
 

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I asked for one to be included and the frame showed up with one fitted and a spare. Very happy with that! Not a fan of the new head badge at all.
The old Cotic logo matches up with your frame colour really well. Nice choice. I'm a fan of the new logo, but it's great that Cotic is offering both options depending where buyers fall on the new or old is better question. :thumbsup:
 

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I know a lot of people wouldn't bother putting frame protection on a burly steel frame, but I have a bunch of time on my hands waiting for parts/making build decisions so I spent a rainy morning yesterday putting tape on the BFeMAX.



Mostly I used odds and ends I had left over from other bikes.



My usual technique of wrapping an old tube around the DS CS looked stupid bulky on the slender steel tubing so I just laid a length against the CS and wrapped it with electrical tape. I think it came out pretty nice and will be easy to spruce up as the tape gets torn/worn.



The BFeMAX will have a nice long Mudhugger rear fender installed when it's done. Ya I am one of those weirdos that put real fenders on both ends of their MTBs. It's a PNWet thing! ;)



I bought a bulk roll of $$$$$ Shelter Tape a bunch of years ago and use it for spots on my bikes that can use some real impact protection. So I put some on the NDS CS as well as under the BB. It's really thick tape so I don't bother using it on places that are less likely to get hit hard. From any distance you can't see it which is nice as it maintains a clean look for the frame and you can admire the lovely finish.



I also put a few more smaller bits of tape where that frame bag will attach under the TT and at the ST. Just to avoid wearing away the powder coat over millions of bumps. :cool:
 
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