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so yesterday i am finishing up a ride coming out at camelsback and there is a cop in the middel of the trail yelling at me to stop. so i hit the brakes and stop. Is there a problem i ask? Do you have a dog with you the officer ask? I looked around puzzled as i dont own a dog. NO why. The officer said have a good day ..

So inother words if you ride with a dog look out..

So im on my way to work @ 530 am and im ridding anlong and i hear clunk cnlunk snap.. :madmax: errr my chain busted. its to late to walk back to the house so i hustle and go forward to work.click clack click clack go my shoes. when no other than a cop shows up in his car. He ask were you headed and what are you doing. what does it look like im doing. im thinking glad i didnt say it.i stutter for words and say going to work. oh the officer said we had a string of bikes stollen around here thats yours right. no i like wearing elf shoes and a helmet and a bike jacet that sais team bike alley all over it.. i told him my chain broke and then off he went .. didnt even ask if i needed any thing what a guy. oh well ..
they are the athority so we must respect them.. right.
 

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Police State?

Last time I checked, the 4th Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures of U.S. citizens by law enforcement. The courts have interpreted the 4th Amendmend to provide that a police officer does not have any right to stop and question a citizen unless the officer can articulate facts to support the officer's objectively reasonable suspicion that the citizen has, or is, engaged in criminal behavior.

Is riding your bike down a trail a criminal act in Boise? Looks like things are getting out of hand down south. I suggest that you get the name and badge number of the officers engaged in this activity and report it to the Police Chief as a violation of your civil rights.

Good luck!
 

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if you did have a dog with you...you likely would have been shot several times...and then asked where you leash and your poop baggie were.

point is: stay away from camelsback/hulls -

the other incident...wtf...you're wearing bike gear...and mr. piggy figures you've stolen the bike. and, why would running with a bike make him think you'd stolen it. weird.

pretty sure i would contact someone regarding him stopping you on the trail to ask if you had a dog with you. boice pd, city of boise, ridge to rivers, etc. doubt they're supposed to just tell people to stop on the trail.

can this dog nazi stuff get any dumber:rolleyes:
 

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Whats the issue?
He was looking for dog owners running dogs off leash. Then the second cop was looking for stolen bikes. They both explained why they stopped the OP.
I would have thanked him profusely for doing a great job.
 

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shoulda just blown right past him and never stopped.....what are they gonna do "clothesline" someone that refuses to stop? Screw that, if I see a cop on the trails I'm gonna ride right past them even if they ask me to stop. Never know if it's a cop or someone impersonating a cop just waiting to rip your bike off
 

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fishbum said:
Whats the issue?
He was looking for dog owners running dogs off leash. Then the second cop was looking for stolen bikes. They both explained why they stopped the OP.
I would have thanked him profusely for doing a great job.
a lot is wrong with stopping someone without a reason.

i'd be willing to bet that it is not their protocol to stop a hiker/runner/biker without reason. the cop didn't see a dog..and therefore should not have stopped jungle. if a dog comes trailing afterwards - a few hundred yards behind...then yeah...there's a reason.

in the 2nd case..the dude was wearing bike shoes/clothes/helmet...what would make a cop think he'd stolen that bike.

you probably think the patriot act is a good idea too.

to protect and serve...not to harrass and bully

and - for the record. i support law enforcement. i know they have a tough job, and do a lot for us. however, the incident that jungle describes is bothersome to me.

it's more of an annoyance than anything. and, why are we putting someone who gets paid from our tax dollars on such a stupid, ridiculous post.

come to think of it..that's probably why he did stop jungle. he's probably ticked off about being out there watching for irresponsible dog owners.
 

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ryman said:
shoulda just blown right past him and never stopped.....what are they gonna do "clothesline" someone that refuses to stop? Screw that, if I see a cop on the trails I'm gonna ride right past them even if they ask me to stop. Never know if it's a cop or someone impersonating a cop just waiting to rip your bike off
seen it done before...guy was riding his bike through an intersection with a cop in it...the cop reached out, grabbed the guy, and threw him on the ground for disobeying traffic laws...the bike went rolling out into the intersection
 

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Harass and bully? Based on the OP's comments he wasn't harassed or bullied.
And the cop did have a reason to stop them, and he explained what it was, and then they went on their way.
If it was your bike that was stolen I'm sure you would be glad there was a cop looking for it.
 

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fishbum said:
Harass and bully? Based on the OP's comments he wasn't harassed or bullied.
And the cop did have a reason to stop them, and he explained what it was, and then they went on their way.
If it was your bike that was stolen I'm sure you would be glad there was a cop looking for it.
It's a well known fact that in Boise the cops shoot first and ask questions later.
 

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agree with fishbum

If my bike was stolen, I would be quite happy to hear that the police are making it public that they are out there and taking it serious. Sure, nobody is going to volunteer that they stole the bike they were on but the fact that they are out in the public eye, asking about it tells me that they are doing what they can to deter future similar crimes. In my mind, the OP was already frustrated about his mechanical and the officer provided an outlet for that frustration.

As far as the dog cop. We, as a people, made the dogs an issue. If the OP happened to have a dog with him and went by the cop, and then the officer noticed the dog trailing, how would he have stopped the rider? Would the dog have stopped for the cop? If you are serious about enforcing the isssue that I am sure they do not want to enforce but we, as a people, are making them. You stop them when you can, when they are in front of you and not try to catch up with them after they pass. Word will get out that they are taking the issue seriously and people will start policing themselves (finally) and they will not need to use such tactics any longer.

I am not normally the person to defend local law enforcement and think comments like the vest are funny. But really, reporting the officer for harassment? Just be glad we have them and remember they are doing what they do because somebody asked them to. We asked them to.
 

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garnetspur said:
a lot is wrong with stopping someone without a reason.

and - for the record. i support law enforcement. i know they have a tough job, and do a lot for us. however, the incident that jungle describes is bothersome to me.

come to think of it..that's probably why he did stop jungle. he's probably ticked off about being out there watching for irresponsible dog owners.
Not trying to start a flame war, but how can you say you respect law enforcement when you call them a "piggy" in your previous post?

I don't mind if a cop stops me and inquires about stolen bikes, because I know what it's like to have one taken, more than happy to cooperate. I don't think either situation was that big of a deal, now if they wanted to search you or detain you then yeah that would be a problem. It's good to see some of them being proactive rather than reactive.
 

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kuna said:
Not trying to start a flame war, but how can you say you respect law enforcement when you call them a "piggy" in your previous post?
sarcasm doesn't always come through in type. just joking.

the main thing that gets me is putting a highly trained police officer at camelback park - while he's making a decent chuck of change per hour (tax money) to enforce dog policies. silly, stupid. what a waste.

boise's finest should be doing something more important.
 

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agreed....

But until we can learn to police and resolve conflicts ourselves, Boise's finest will have to do it for us. If the dog issue had never gone to become the issue it was, they would be doing far more productive duties today.
 

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Better invest in a flak jacket first.

TF
heck yes im going to by one right away any one have a good deal on a used one. and i thought Memphis was tough.:eek: oh and if any one finds my extra skin on the trail yesterday i will take it back its been a bad week..
 

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bucksaw87 said:
seen it done before...guy was riding his bike through an intersection with a cop in it...the cop reached out, grabbed the guy, and threw him on the ground for disobeying traffic laws...the bike went rolling out into the intersection
This should have landed the police offer on indefinite leave, and he's lucky he didn't have charges pressed against him.
 
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