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Spend the last 9 months or so on a 27.5 (carbon Bronson) and while I like it, I'm dabbling with the idea of coming back to a full-suspension 29er.

I'm trying to keep to a two-bike stable, with the other being my ti 29er SS. The FS 29er will be my 70% of the time go-to rig. I'm 6'2" and 185 pounds with a 34-35 cycling inseam and long arms. Size L in both bikes seems to fit fine for me ( I tend to trend up a size with smaller wheels and down a size with larger wheels).

I live and ride mostly in Phoenix, where even our XC trails are soul-crushingly rocky. The 29er will be used on everything from mildly technical trail rides to more extreme tech, but not for shuttling. I'll be climbing this bike as well.

I can pick up both locally. The Camber is obviously a couple grand more and realistically more than I want to spend. But it's in the running because it seems like a little hot-rod and a lot of fun.

I don't mind going back to an aluminum frame and I'll likely be upgrading to carbon wheels at some point (love them on my Bronson).

Anyone got any experience with both bikes, particularly on more technical trails (both climbing and descending) and at higher-speeds? The Enduro is probably a touch more travel than I use/need 90% of the time, but it's got those short stays I love.

The Camber has longer stays and shorter travel than I'm used to, but man it looks like a blast.

Both ride fine in the parking lot, of course, Won't be able to actually trail test either.

Input?
 

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Hi Blatant!

If the Camber Evo has too little travel (120mm) and the Enduro has more travel than you need or use (160mm), then the Stumpjumper Evo 29 could be your way to go IMO.

The SJ Evo expert costs only 200 more than the camber but you get a 140mm PIKE which could be very useful on Phoenix trails.

Mo.
 

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Thanks. I don't KNOW the Camber has too little travel. It's that I typically ride bikes with more travel. And while I typically ride smaller-wheeled bikes at 160mm, that much travel in a 29er is a lot.

I've had an SJ (non Evo) previously, so was hoping to try something different. If the SJ had the Enduro-length chain stays, though, it would be a no-brainer.
 

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It was definitely a consideration. But try finding one.
 

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So, out to the dealers again. I've decided I'm going full-bore with the Enduro. The Camber Evo seems nice, but I don't think it's ultimately enough bike for the type of terrain I ride in.

Now the question is: carbon or aluminum?
 

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You made the right choice. Your original post contained three key words: "Bronson, rocky, technical". If that doesn't say Enduro 29 I don't know what does.

The E29 Comp is an incredible value. Have you thought about going with the aluminum bike and using some of the money saved for good carbon wheels? I would think this would be where you could really "feel" that money being well spent. However, the carbon model would be a no brainer if you had the moolah.

The E29 is not too much bike for your riding. 6" of travel is 6" of travel when you hit some drops and jumps. Now you'll have the added benefit of the 29er rollover with the short-stay handling that's the icing on the cake!
 

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Hi again

You wrote that the E29 has a touch more travel than you need/use.
It's exactly what I was thinking, so I swapped the original air shaft with a 150 mm air shaft.

Now my E29 has "only" 150 mm of travel but it climbes better.
Happy I made that change cause I don't need a160 mm anyway, and now going uphill is easier for me.

Mo.
 

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Great input. I bought the Comp version, black/blue, size L. Got a decent price on it. Did have the ability for an S-works frame only at a nice discount, but ultimately chose to try to keep the budget low.

I'm also thinking of carbon rims. Went I went from aluminum to carbon frame, I noticed a very subtle difference. Aluminum to carbon rims = significant difference.

The comp is a bit of a pig. As it came from the shop (reflectors, plastic pedals, tubes, etc.), 32.4 pounds. Ouch.

Looking for a final weight around 29 if possible.
 

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Nope. An RFX and a couple Spots, no Highline.

Starting ripping the Enduro apart today. Going in: Chromag cockpit, Hope X3 brakes, KS Lev, XX1 drivetrain, new Flow/Hadley wheelset from Speed Dream.

Just need to figure out how to adapt my GXP XX1 cranks to this ridiculous PF30 BB.
 

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Nope. An RFX and a couple Spots, no Highline.

Starting ripping the Enduro apart today. Going in: Chromag cockpit, Hope X3 brakes, KS Lev, XX1 drivetrain, new Flow/Hadley wheelset from Speed Dream.

Just need to figure out how to adapt my GXP XX1 cranks to this ridiculous PF30 BB.
I'm very interested to know how close you come to your 29 lb goal on this bike and how you made it happen.
 

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Not a realistic goal, unfortunately. Finished build weight came to 30 pounds on the nose as listed with dropper, pedals, etc.

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/13790221823" title="IMG_0474 by dbozman1173, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3718/13790221823_7db68c4b49.jpg" width="800" height="598" alt="IMG_0474"></a>

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/13790199315" title="IMG_0475 by dbozman1173, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13790199315_7fff7410fa_c.jpg" width="800" height="598" alt="IMG_0475"></a>

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/13790537374" title="IMG_0476 by dbozman1173, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2888/13790537374_d8ccb5066f_c.jpg" width="800" height="598" alt="IMG_0476"></a>

Build:

Stock parts: Large alu frame, headset, Pike, seat collar, tires, rear axle.

Drivetrain: Complete XX1, 28-tooth front ring

Wheels: Speed Dream-built Flow EX to Hadley, tubeless

Seating: WTB Silverado, KS Lev 6-inch

Cockpit: Chromag 50mm stem, Chromag 35mm carbon bars

Brakes: Hope X3 203/180

Shakedown run in the morning.
 

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Not a realistic goal, unfortunately. Finished build weight came to 30 pounds on the nose as listed with dropper, pedals, etc.

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/13790221823" title="IMG_0474 by dbozman1173, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3718/13790221823_7db68c4b49.jpg" width="800" height="598" alt="IMG_0474"></a>

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/13790199315" title="IMG_0475 by dbozman1173, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13790199315_7fff7410fa_c.jpg" width="800" height="598" alt="IMG_0475"></a>

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/13790537374" title="IMG_0476 by dbozman1173, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2888/13790537374_d8ccb5066f_c.jpg" width="800" height="598" alt="IMG_0476"></a>

Build:

Stock parts: Large alu frame, headset, Pike, seat collar, tires, rear axle.

Drivetrain: Complete XX1, 28-tooth front ring

Wheels: Speed Dream-built Flow EX to Hadley, tubeless

Seating: WTB Silverado, KS Lev 6-inch

Cockpit: Chromag 50mm stem, Chromag 35mm carbon bars

Brakes: Hope X3 203/180

Shakedown run in the morning.
Very nice. I got mine on Wednesday and it is amazing. Can you please tell me where you got your 28t chainring? Also, did you have any spacing issues when you converted to 1x? I have a RF NW 30t chainring, but am a little worried about the spacing when removing the Taco Blade. Thanks in advance.
 

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It's an XX1 chainring, specific to XX1 cranks. Not sure why spacing would be a consideration. The stock 33-tooth ring fits, why wouldn't a 30-tooth ring regardless of whether or not you remove the blade.
 

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It's an XX1 chainring, specific to XX1 cranks. Not sure why spacing would be a consideration. The stock 33-tooth ring fits, why wouldn't a 30-tooth ring regardless of whether or not you remove the blade.
I meant that outward spacing from removing the Taco Blade. I've read that the drive side crank isn't spaced properly once you remove the Blade.
 
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