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The Coe-dependent riders are getting antsy. It's been weeks since the last big Coe ride. It's time for the next one:

Join us Sunday December 11th at Hunting Hollow, 7:15am with four one-dollar bills (for parking) so that you're ready to roll at 7:30. The plan is to make a bee-line to Mississippi Lake: Lyman Willson Ridge Trail > Bowl Trail > Wagon Road > Coit Dam Trail > down Coit Ridge Trail to White Tank > Pacheco Camp > Pacheco Creek Trail >??? > Mississippi Lake.

Return route: Willow Ridge Rd > Willow Ridge Trail > Narrows Tr. > Lost Spring > Mahoney > Coit Rd. > Grapevine > Anza.

Winter conditions, BigLarry's moderate pace, and a short December day may mean we make adjustments on the trail - sunset is 4:50pm, we do not want to get caught in the dark! We just want to have another fun, adventurous day at Henry Coe State Park.

More details to follow and the exact route may evolve over the next week but I wanted to post now so you can book the date if you're interested.

///Charlie

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Mississippi Lake:

 

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You know I'm in. It'll be COLD at the start, though. Brrr...
 

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Mini-Body-Bag Ride?

I'm in too. I suppose the plan is to use up as much of the sun as possible, while not going into dark.

Should be a mini-body-bag ride, by comparison with that last Mississippi Lake ride. Willow Ridge Trail may partly make up for missing Dutch's. Haven't done a TOPO estimate yet, but my wild guess is something more than 30 miles and 6000' of climbing.

I just got myself some full finger gloves, arm warmers, and leg warmers for the cold early morning start. I'll be testing them tomorrow morning up Sierra Azul. And those chemical toe heaters Charlie mentioned before seem like a nice luxury.
 

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You know we love Coe but...

We have a rule in our household pertaining to the weekends: No out of bed activity before 7:30am.
 

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Looks like my friend Jeff is almost certainly in, although he may have to cut out a bit early.
 

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you all are evil....because of y'all i gotta roll out of a warm bed & miss pancakes in the am...instead i will be shivering, confused, grumpy and trying to keep up with everyone...


i totally look forward to the ride :)
 

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The Law said:
No out of bed activity before 7:30am.
Stop it now. That's naughty. (Got any pictures?)

I agree though. 7:30 is too early and too cold for me. Mississippi Lake is a cool place, but not that cool. Anyone want to do a less-ambitious Hunting Hollow loop around noon and maybe meet up with the Lakers for post-ride brew? We could ride out and meet them at the wrecking ball, so they don't miss it.
 

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I haven't been able to convince anyone of this but myself, but I still think that a strong hiker/climber can ride/push his bike up Steer Ridge Trail and over to the Mount Wilson Summit and down Serpentine before the same rider could get over Lyman Wilson and over to Wagon Road. This might be especially true if there are too many stream crossings involved to get to Lyman Wilson. I could be wrong of course but I won't be able to find out Sunday since I have to work. Maybe in a couple weeks though I will give it a try. Have a great ride.
 

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decisions...decisions...

long-early Coe ride, shorter-later Coe ride, or putting my Kirkwood season pass to use... Living in Nor Cal can be tough - too many things to do. Maybe I'll just stay home and drink beer and watch football.
 

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Portola Vince said:
I haven't been able to convince anyone of this but myself, but I still think that a strong hiker/climber can ride/push his bike up Steer Ridge Trail and over to the Mount Wilson Summit and down Serpentine before the same rider could get over Lyman Wilson and over to Wagon Road.
Believe me, you don't want to push your bike up Steer Ridge Trail. I made that mistake - once.

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Plim said:
Looks like my friend Jeff is almost certainly in, although he may have to cut out a bit early.
I'm planning to join the ride, if the carpool offer from Plim still stands. Will pack my cold weather gear.
 

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Fast Eddy Anyone want to do a less-ambitious Hunting Hollow loop around noon and maybe meet up with the Lakers for post-ride brew? We could ride out and meet them at the wrecking ball said:
This is tempting.
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Skiing is less than stellar at Kirkwood right now. Still, there is snow and chairs 6 & 10 were both open today. Unless you like sticking to the groomies, I'd wait a bit.
 

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No change

No changes so far to the route as described in post #1. Since TOPO info has not emerged from BigLarry(!), this morning I used Plim's® map-based-point-to-point-milage-summation© methodology to compute 36.3 miles for this ride. There's 9 hours of daylight so if we can keep the pace above 4mph, we're good! As always, I estimate about a mile of elevation gain. Ed reports that the streams have a little water but not so much that you couldn't ride through them without getting your feet wet. This is important when the trip begins at "probably negative twenty degrees" and there are probably 10 stream crossings in the first mile.

Roll call:

Me
Plim
BigLarry
CruzSS
Jeff (this guy could ride up the side of the Empire State Bldg!)
CHUM
8Trak

I guess we all know what to bring, right? Lots of food, water, layers, water filter, radios, sportlegs, toe warmers... Any questions?

Fast Eddy said:
We could ride out and meet them at the wrecking ball, so they don't miss it.
I hope you do that Ed. I have been curious where the heck that wrecking ball is ever since fourarm posted this picture over a year ago:



It looks Sunday will be a brisk, sunny winter day - I'm really forward to this ride!

Oh and this is my 100th post! Do I get a award or something?

///Charlie
 

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yeah, but...

Ebo said:
Skiing is less than stellar at Kirkwood right now. Still, there is snow and chairs 6 & 10 were both open today. Unless you like sticking to the groomies, I'd wait a bit.
I haven't skied for 7 or 8 months and that's all I've been thinking about lately. Maybe I'll flip a coin.

 

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Skyline35 said:
No changes so far to the route as described in post #1. Since TOPO info has not emerged from BigLarry(!), this morning I used Plim's® map-based-point-to-point-milage-summation© methodology to compute 36.3 miles for this ride. There's 9 hours of daylight so if we can keep the pace above 4mph, we're good! As always, I estimate about a mile of elevation gain.....

Oh and this is my 100th post! Do I get a award or something?

///Charlie
I still need to do a profile - looks like a long ride. I note some want a faster ride, and I worry about getting in before dark. Mike says the ~36 miles are "easy" by Henry Coe standard, and I see the route may indeed not be too bad so I may be OK. Nevertheless, for the sake of all, if I'm runnng too far behind I may cut off short on Pacheco Creek Trail to go up Rat Springs directly over to Willow Ridge Rd. near Willow Ridge Trail. I'd miss-Mississippi but I've been there once before on the 2-day weekend trip with Mike.

Fast Eddy said:
I agree though. 7:30 is too early and too cold for me. Mississippi Lake is a cool place, but not that cool. Anyone want to do a less-ambitious Hunting Hollow loop around noon and maybe meet up with the Lakers for post-ride brew? We could ride out and meet them at the wrecking ball, so they don't miss it.
Sounds like a deal. So roughly where is that ball, on what trail? I'm mixing together posts in my head and I'm getting this image of Jeff-the-climber carrying that thing up in his Camelback.

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We have a rule in our household pertaining to the weekends: No out of bed activity before 7:30am.
Ahh.. Gees...so wimpy. Mixing up posts in my head again may offer a solution with the toe warmers Charlie finds useful. Popping a couple of these down your partner's pants will reduce the shriveling in the morning cold. Then shoot on over for a great ride.
 

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your everpresent slackerness intrigues me...

Are you up for this? I'm Christmas partying it up the night before so I won't be up for anything early. Assuming I get over this nasty cold, I'll join you for a ride and some winter ales.

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Golf Saturday, Ride Sunday, and still not enough daylight for

... all the outdoor activites I want to do before ski season arrives.

Count me in for Coe 11th ride. I could use an adventure.
Oh, I am a Coe noob. Should I bring my full squish or the full rigid bike?

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Great to have you along, Daryl!

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Should I bring my full squish or the full rigid bike?
Most of us will have full suspension but Fast Eddy often rides Coe on a full rigid bike.

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Things to bring

wddung said:
Count me in for Coe 11th ride. I could use an adventure.
Oh, I am a Coe noob. Should I bring my full squish or the full rigid bike?

-Daryl
Glad to have you along! I remember you dashing ahead last weekend at Sierra Azul. Henry Coe will show you who's boss, especially on this tough 36 mile all-day epic.

As Charlie said, some do rigid. Some amazing riders even bring singlespeed. But they're nuts, just in general, IMO. I think Henry Coe can make good use of a modern FS XC bike. Nevertheless, much of the ride is smooth fire road, good for rigid. But you may want FS for the miles of rocky stream riding we'll do like on Pacheco Creek Trail. You may also want it on some technical singletrack like Grapevine and Willow Ridge Tr. .

I got your email asking about what to bring, but post a response here for discussion.

I'd bring some warm clothes in layers. It will be brutal cold in the morning. But starting off, right after a few quick chilling stream crossings, we'll climb 1500' up Lyman-Wilson to get real toasty from the workout, while the weather warms from 40s to 60s. So be ready to strip off layers quickly. I bring leg warmers, arm warmers, full finger gloves, and a windbreaker to keep dry on the stream crossings. I'm also trying out the toe warmers Charlie talks about. (see above).

As for gear, you want to first be self sufficient, like on any MTBR ride. Henry Coe is way out there and a little more gear is warranted. Bring lots of water, food, tools, spare tubes, first aid, and other favorites.

To coordinate we'll be bringing GRS/FMRS radios tuned to channel 5, subchannel 0. I have extra high range units for others to borrow. It's easy to get lost out there and I have extra maps I can give you.

We may want to bring a water filter to reduce Camelback water weight and we should be able to fill at Mississippi Lake or any of the little streams FastEddy says are now flowing. Only a couple filters are needed and we can share.

We will try to be back by 4PM, so lights are an option that may be useful only if we get into trouble or serioiusly delayed for some reason. I'm debating myself, and I'm likely the last guy to come back barring accidents or big mechanicals.

Looks like a big fun epic ride to the deepest parts of Henry Coe! :D We got a good group. And it will be fun meeting up with FastEddy's rescue crew at Willow Ridge. Will the rescue team be bringing a tow rope to haul me out after the long ride to Mississippi. ;) :p (I'll be slow but fine as usual.)
 
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