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Don't think so. Most Specialized bike use an integrated headset, where the cups are integrated into the frame and the bearings are just dropped in. As opposed to the cups being pressed in like a "normal" HS.
No.
^^^^ as stated, don't look like it...you did not specify which Epic, but it appears all have a tapered headset...King says "will not fit a tapered headset..." :nono:
That isn't integrated, that is Zero Stack on your Marin.^^^^ as stated, don't look like it...you did not specify which Epic, but it appears all have a tapered headset...King says "will not fit a tapered headset..." :nono:
they will have one, just not that one :yesnod: if you really want a CK...just hope this isn't one of those mfg only components. Specialized's website was really vague other than stating it was tapered.
my picture below is of my Nail Trail's FSA integrated headset...you can see the pressed in cups at the top and bottom of the head tube...guess you can't see the top, but they look the same. I would think this what S gave you too.
so the bearings use the actual head tube as the cup...if the bearing goes South, your frame goes with it...or at least it could? If so, isn't this one of CK issues regarding flawed engineering to save a bit of weight and cost?That isn't integrated, that is Zero Stack on your Marin.
Specialized uses integrated meaning there are no cups pressed into the frame. The bearings drop directly into the headtube.
Assuming you keep it properly tightened, it comes properly aligned from the factory, and replace bearings when needed there won't be a problem....what could possibly go wrong:skep:so the bearings use the actual head tube as the cup...if the bearing goes South, your frame goes with it...or at least it could? If so, isn't this one of CK issues regarding faulty engineering to save a bit of weight and cost?
can I assume you are being facetious and am I not correct, that CK will not support this design with any of their products?Assuming you keep it properly tightened, it comes properly aligned from the factory, and replace bearings when needed there won't be a problem....what could possibly go wrong:skep:
what about a bottom bracket with a SRAM crankam I not correct, that CK will not support this design with any of their products?
can't help ya there...CK is obviously in the BB business, so why wouldn't they?what about a bottom bracket with a SRAM crank
ZS (zero stack) is still a cup and bearing headset that is pressed into the headtube. That means you can face the headtube so everything aligns well. So yes, the zero stack system is a far superior design than integrated. And you are right, King does not support any system that does not allow you to face and align their headset or bottom bracket bearings.can I assume you are being facetious and am I not correct, that CK will not support this design with any of their products?
you were correct re the headset on my bike...Marin describes it as 1.5B ZS. I assumed that this would have been the "integrated" design and that the "integral" was the bastard...and I mean that in the literal sense. You must then consider a ZS to be a better design?
thanks for clearing that upZS (zero stack) is still a cup and bearing headset that is pressed into the headtube. That means you can face the headtube so everything aligns well. So yes, the zero stack system is a far superior design than integrated. And you are right, King does not support any system that does not allow you to face and align their headset or bottom bracket bearings.
There's also the issue of branding. The integrated standard doesn't give them any real estate on which to print huge logos all the way around the cups.And you are right, King does not support any system that does not allow you to face and align their headset or bottom bracket bearings.
Pretty much, another brilliant engineering advance like PF30. I was really interested in a Devinci Atlas, but it has the same thing, integrated headset.so the bearings use the actual head tube as the cup...if the bearing goes South, your frame goes with it...or at least it could? If so, isn't this one of CK issues regarding flawed engineering to save a bit of weight and cost?
hard for me to understand the mentality of these two "quality" bike mfg's :crazy: and no doubt a bunch more...are then, an integral and integrated headset one in the same?Pretty much, another brilliant engineering advance like PF30. I was really interested in a Devinci Atlas, but it has the same thing, integrated headset.
guess I should applaud Marin's decision to use ZS and BB30Pretty much, another brilliant engineering advance like PF30. I was really interested in a Devinci Atlas, but it has the same thing, integrated headset.