Its the same with bass strings, there are only 2 or 3 string manufacturers globally, making every price variation from generic strings through the high zoot ones. You can pay $12 for a set of bass strings or $60.
I get what you're saying. I get that the chinese factory is the one doing a whole lot of the heavy lifting on this. BUT, and this is a big but, if they are just lifting the design they developed for someone else and then selling it back to the same market for 1/4 the price, that's a pretty crappy thing to do.I think you may have misunderstood my point, not sure but think so.
It's actually the Chinese factory that makes all the investment, has all the technical skills to design, test and manufacture the high tec carbon frame. They make both the expensive frame for the boutique fat bike house and the medium price frame and the low cost direct frame. They make frames for all the markets so they can achieve the volume they need and the average price they need to survive.
Piracy has nothing to do with this business model. Nothing what so ever.
Some years back I was a windsurfer. There was only one factory in the whole world that made windsurfing sails. Every brand went there, had them design and make what they wanted and sold the sail at the price they could achieve. That one factory had all the skills to achieve what was needed.
Uh, the reality is that bike companies pay for all of the tooling, testing, and design on unique products like fatbikes and fat rims.It's actually the Chinese factory that makes all the investment, has all the technical skills to design, test and manufacture the high tec carbon frame.
You're saying everything I wanted to say. Nice job.I get what you're saying. I get that the chinese factory is the one doing a whole lot of the heavy lifting on this. BUT, and this is a big but, if they are just lifting the design they developed for someone else and then selling it back to the same market for 1/4 the price, that's a pretty crappy thing to do.
I understand that they make frames for multiple price points, but undercutting your clients is something no one wants to see.
I keep going back to music, but again, this smacks of the kind of stuff that management used to do to artists back in the bad old days- "Hey, we'll help you out, no problem, just sign here" only to discover that you no longer own your songs. THat's kind of where I was rambling earlier- who's more important in the equation- the artist or the distributor? and the answer is, they both need each other.
Like I said, crappy day. I do see your point and if this is a mutual thing, if Borealis/fatback/907 don't care, than neither do I. Cheers.
Actually, you don't know exactly what they do unless you have spoken with someone about the exact example.Uh, the reality is that bike companies pay for all of the tooling, testing, and design on unique products like fatbikes and fat rims.
Cheapasses buying cheap **** on the internet affects everyone, no matter how you justify it.
I don't know if the "Chinese Frames" are illegally copied and what not, but if they are, then anyone buying it is supporting the activity. It can be justified away, but it is still supporting the activity.With carbon fat/ regular bikes being big $$$ some guys may not have the funds to ever afford something like that. Weither it be because they are taking care of their family or not much disposable income or whatever the case may be.
Here might be a chance for that dude to buy a moto , strip it and transfer the parts for a fraction of the price. And have a nice ride he can be proud of. Who am i to judge that guy or blast him because his bike doesnt have a certain name on the downtube.
Just because some people bring home bigger paychecks doesnt make them better or more "moral" than the other person. Yes i can see the argument it may not be right for companies to do this, but to bust the
guy buying it, i dont necessarily agree with.
(for the detectives yes ive posted questions on chinese frames and yes i ride a old 04 hardrock to work everyday.. Blast away)