Running an 8.75 x2.75in shock at 40% gives the same ride geometry as running and 8.5 x 2.5 at 33%. so you only really need to change the springs to achieve the same results.calvinstoney said:Why wouldn't you just put an 8.5 X 2.5 shock and the 8 inch travel fork and move the lower crown up the legs 3/8 inch to get slacker headtube, and use a flatter bars with a direct mount to keep the front end low. This was my best downhill setup. I moved my crown up about 1/4 inch and that was all I could get with my headset(I was running an S3 +5mm which moved it up some to start). If I was running a more speed oriented course without low speed technical drops then I ran 30+ sag on rear and 25 front to keep her low.
When I set it up to free-ride I would go back to 8.75 on rear with 25% sag to steepen the HTA for the jumps and it allows me to pedal through the entry corners on some of the tight jumps and drops on our trail, due to higher BB height. Also kept me from bottoming out on the drops to flat.
It all depends on the trails that you ride. If you have a smooth Ride Park and you can get away with minimal travel then drop the rear to 6 inches with an air shock, and put the Lyrik 170mm on it. I think that would be an awesome set up for Bike Park, and should lower the BB an inch or maybe a little more.
hey Calvin.I can tell you that there is no way this bike will last with a 40% sag setup with me riding it. If I switch my 8.75 and put the 550lb spring on it, it gives me right at 30-34% sag and I can push it to the bottom out on this roller jump that was on the race run. It's about a 2ft roller that sends me in the air about 3-4 ft at 20mph, and lands on flat section of trial right after the jump. The bike bottomed out every time I hit it at speed with DHX set with two turns of bottom out and 200lb of pressure.
My perception and what I love about my Ellsworth is that the suspension is more linear in travel and does not progress very much as it compresses(maybe my perception is skewed). I would love to see the curves on ICT and FSR. This allows me to use full travel and keeps the bike from feeling harsh when you get into the rough sections. I have a 9inch travel FSR rear suspended bike is progressive It's super soft at the beginning of the travel and doesn't bottom with me riding a 450lb spring at 35% sag on free-ride trails that drop 4ft to flat with no speed. I'm still waiting to get this bike on the downhill trails, but I'm going to guess that it will be great on most of the trail, but will get harsh in the large rock gardens.
If I put the rogue down to 500lb spring to achieve 40% sag, I would no doubt end up breaking the frame on my downhill trails. I guess if your trails don't have you leaving the ground at all, then 40% would work great.