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OK, it seems like a number of DW spot owners are running CCDB's .
I've just got mine, but I will need to bump up to the next spring rate (600lbs) to get the right sag.

I read this on the Pivot Forum...
_dw said:
The Firebird is going to work awesome with a coil shock, and the DB is a great choice. Put it on, go light on the low speed compression, with a little high speed compression and light low speed rebound, high speed rebound to taste (you don't want to be getting bucked from bottom out). It might take you a little bit to dial it in, but I guarantee that the potential is there to be an awesome ride.

Dave
I think he was suggesting these starting points would work well for DW spot.

I'm at 1 turn from open HSC, 5 clicks from open LSC, HSR & LSR at factory setting.
I hope to have the heavier spring in a weeks time ,so some more tuning/experimenting will have to done.

So what are you running?
If you can list your ride weight , spring weight along with the settings you have ended up with?

Can we keep the thread on track, thanks in advance.:thumbsup:
 

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got these setting from cane creek, for a 5spot.

With all adjusters open counter clockwise try these settings.

Turning clockwise.
HSC 1-1.5 turns
LSC 10-14 clicks
HSR 1-1.75 turns
LSR 10-12 clicks


Thank you,

Malcolm Hadley
Cane Creek Components
Product Manager Double Barrel
 

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fua said:
got these setting from cane creek, for a 5spot.

With all adjusters open counter clockwise try these settings.

Turning clockwise.
HSC 1-1.5 turns
LSC 10-14 clicks
HSR 1-1.75 turns
LSR 10-12 clicks

Thank you,

Malcolm Hadley
Cane Creek Components
Product Manager Double Barrel
Seems like a lot of LSC and LSR damping.
 

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Gary at Cane Creek rides a 5 Spot; you could try getting in touch regarding his settings.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=190200&id=124691776683

http://www.facebook.com/notes/cane-creek-cycling-components/turner-5spot-by-gary/10150224662850571

"So we got a few new frames in for some product testing and I got my hands on the fresh new DW link 5 spot from Turner. If you're not familiar with Turner bikes definitely check em out, American made and bad ass !

The new 5 spot is actually 5.5 inches of travel in the rear, so its plenty of squish for most anything I can throw at it around here. I personally am usually a dedicated hard tail rider, and am often of the mindset that dualies make it too easy for a lot of people. I say put your time in on a hard tail and really develop those bike handling skills before you throw a leg over a long travel trail bike. That being said, I do love a plush bike and being able to point it straight down the trail without a care for what line I'm taking or where it might take me !

So how does the new 5 spot stack up you ask? Well, for starters I had Malcolm set up the DB to be a steady pedaling platform, with a few adjustments to the low speed settings it was ready to go. Coupled with the DW link suspension this thing pedals unbelievably well. As I said I'm usually ride a hard tail, so I'm picky when it comes to rear suspension a but the DW link gets it done right. In the saddle spinning along there is hardly a bit of pedal bob, yet the DB is still able to soak up small bumps effortlessly as you move along the trail. As with most dualies you'll find yourself in the saddle for a lot of climbing, and it takes a slightly different approach than a hard tail. If you just keep your butt on the saddle and keep spinning this thing is like a billy goat and will crawl up just about anything if you keep the power on steady. It was standing up to charge a few short climbs where I was really impressed though. As you stand up and romp on it the suspension gives a quick initial drop but seems to tighten itself in that dropped position and feels like it's just forcing the rear wheel into the ground. This coupled with some burly tire tread ( I've got a maxis High Roller on the rear, and a Kenda Nevegal up front) delivers all the traction you can hope for when out of the saddle.

Now, on to descending! This is where this baby shines! I added a little extra travel up front with the Rockshox Lyric (160mm travel) This gives me a slightly slacker head angle and touch more give to get me out of trouble. And trouble is exactly what this bike will get you into with a quickness! After a few rides you'll start looking at downhills a little differently and notice lines that wouldn't have made much sense on a hard tail or a bike with a few inches less travel. Luckily the 5.5 inches of travel will bail you out of some stupid lines without a problem. As I said, we dialed the low speeds setting on the DB to pedal well, other than that I wound up slowing down the high speed rebound, because at first I was getting pitched forward a bit on bigger hits, but two clicks in on the high speed rebound and its feels smooth as silk! Plus the 5 spot has a fairly low BB and really low stand over that just begs to slung into turns with reckless abandon. Once you get a feel for the geometry you'll be throwing the thing into turns at your local spots faster than ever!

So that's what I have for now, I'm planning some trips to a few local spots that are burley enough to really warrant being on a set up like this. So I'll report back when I've taken it down a few trails that should push the limits of what I'm capable of, we'll see if the bike even notices.

Gary
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Hi Fua: These settings were for a DW Spot or an older HL Spot?

fua said:
got these setting from cane creek, for a 5spot.

With all adjusters open counter clockwise try these settings.

Turning clockwise.
HSC 1-1.5 turns
LSC 10-14 clicks
HSR 1-1.75 turns
LSR 10-12 clicks

Thank you,

Malcolm Hadley
Cane Creek Components
Product Manager Double Barrel
 

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Toons, I run with these settings most of the time

HSC 1 turn
LSC 5 clicks
HSR 2 turns
LSR 6 clicks

sometimes add a few clicks of LSC & LSR depending on the ride
 

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Geo025 / Toons101,

Would you guys mind sharing your ready-to-ride weight? I picked up a CCDB recently and I'm having trouble getting it dialed (granted I need to ride it more). The high side of the recommendations from CC with a little extra HSR feel good, but not great. I'm 200 lbs with gear. Thanks!
 

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About 195lbs with gear.

I was running those setting; try running the on the lower end, should feel more plush without pedal bob.
 

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Bonesteel,
I'm at 220 lbs ready to ride.
I've gone back to the softer original CC 550 lbs spring, plusher with a bit more sag.
I started with the CC recommendations then tweaked it to " seat of the pants" feel.

What I like may not be what your after, everyone has their own preferences....each to their own.
Start with the CC base , my settings or toons & experiment that's the beauty of the DB.
If it gets ugly start again with the base & don't get too tied up with other peoples settings,enjoy it.
 

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I'm running a 600lbs spring = 30% sag

I was running 550lbs spring but I was getting too many pedal strikes, but its very rocky round our way.
 

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Thanks guys! I was asking to kind of gauge what I'm doing since I've only ridden air shocks that have far fewer adjustments so this is a bit of a learning curve for me. On paper I understand what all four adjustments do, but actually applying that knowledge to make the shock perform how I want is different.

Toons, I'm surprised that you compress a 600# spring that much at 200lbs. Since I'm right at 200 and I only get 15-17mm of sag with a 550# spring and 1.5 turns of preload. I have a 500# spring and was thinking of putting that on to see the difference in the ride. I guess difference in rider position is a big factor when tuning shocks.
 
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