AMCAT said:Carvers makes a sweet frame and the price is right,theres my limited production 650b alm. killer bee on e bay if you want to go in that direction
Probably best to ask that question directly to the source via the Carver or bikeman.com sites.laffeaux said:What seat tube angle does Carver's Killer-B have? It's not listed on their geometry table. A top tube length with out a corresponding STA doesn't tell you much.
I agree with you there. I just picked one up about 4 months ago and it just feels right. I'm running mine SS. I can't see paying thousands of dollars for a "boutique" bike when Carver already makes an awesome Ti bike for way less. Save your money and enjoy your Carver....Cheers.lowmassmetals said:i'm the guy that hit the 'buy it now' on that ebay Killer B last summer. no regrets at all though there's been a few very sweet deals on used softtail ti frames out there lately. i gotta say that the "Bee" is by far my favorite bike yet, the quality and workmanship is incredible. i really like the design and features, and the ride quality is excellent. it had to be nice for me to give up my last bike-an '07 kestrel edge(traded in mostly because of worries about carbon crash durability and my lust for titanium). it's a very clean bike. carver welds are spot on, surely the best china has to offer and challenges most bikes ive seen that are made in the USA(especially at the pricepoint), though it is a farely simple or basic frame compared to elite bikes like blacksheep or jeff jones(elite because they are $3-4k framesets). i've also got a fairweather klein carbon retro bike, but the carver is my main ride, and will be until i save up enough for that custom unsuspended B.S. or Jones frameset :thumbsup: