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Bummed that part of the weight savings on the 08 FSR Elite comes at the expense of the cheap, way too thin ultralight tubes and the Captain 2.0's. First time ever today that the sidewall ripped and had an instantanious blowout. These tires are just too thin to have on any type of mildly aggressive trail. If you ride anything like that and you haven't already, change these tires out to something heavier and save yourself a trip to the ER.
 

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I have been using the captain control 2.2'' tires tubeless without any problems. If you are using the S-works version they have thinner sidewalls and could be the problem.
 

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that should be cover under warranty coz its defo from the poor quality of the OE tyre

most stumpy come wif tubeless ready dt rims, tuneless is defo the way forward
i got my pair of s work captain wif stan sealent for more than a year wif no problem on argressive riding (often do drops and dh track)
i have tried wider tyres but they ll slow you down a lot at a long ride
 

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Warranty No way

I doubt a tire with a sliced sidewall is going to be covered under any warranty. Does not hurt to try, but its just the risk you run to gain the performance advantages of a light tire. I don't see how thats a defect in the tire
 

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I'll have to agree with the OP.

Been on mountain bikes since '88 and until this past spring, I have never had a sidewall blowout. Never. Until...

Went to The Captain 2.0 tires, running them tubeless with 2 cups of Stans. Ripped one sidewall while riding a gravel road from one singletrack trail to the next. Hmmm...Anomaly I assured myself. Ordered a new tire directly from Specialized. Installed it. Different trail and three weeks later and I ripped a second sidewall while riding through a rock garden I have ridden numerous times, on numerous other bikes/tires, etc.

That's enough for me. If I still lived in the desert SW (used to live in AZ) I could buy it, but living in the SE? Time for something else. Think I'll try some Geax Saguaros for a change...

Not trying to start a war here, JMHO.

MD
 

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Same thing happened to me with my S-Work Fast Trak LK tires. Tubeless with 2 scoops of Stan's on an XTR wheelset and touched a rock on some singletrack. Blammo. I'm glad that my buddy ahead of me was braking heavily, so I was going slowly otherwise I'd likely have been OTB...

These tires are so thin that I just can't get them to seal up with Stan's. My LBS has been having major warranty issues with people converting to tubeless, and having air and/or sealant leak through the sidewalls they're so thin!
 

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viking159 said:
Bummed that part of the weight savings on the 08 FSR Elite comes at the expense of the cheap, way too thin ultralight tubes and the Captain 2.0's. First time ever today that the sidewall ripped and had an instantanious blowout. These tires are just too thin to have on any type of mildly aggressive trail. If you ride anything like that and you haven't already, change these tires out to something heavier and save yourself a trip to the ER.
Yes, that's unfortunate. The S-works tires are better suited to light xc use or racing. Some folks are just fine with them though. I actually bought a pair of the S-works Captains but never mounted them. The casing looked too thin for my riding, so I returned them for the Captain Controls. I had great luck with the Fast Trak LK Controls (2,000 miles with no flats), so I figured if it ain't broke...

Go tubeless with the Captain Control version and you should save weight and get a sturdier tire to boot. I love the Captain Controls - not quite as fast as the Fast Trak LKs, but much more grippy.
 

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Yes, that's unfortunate. The S-works tires are better suited to light xc use or racing. Some folks are just fine with them though. I actually bought a pair of the S-works Captains but never mounted them. The casing looked too thin for my riding, so I returned them for the Captain Controls. I had great luck with the Fast Trak LK Controls (2,000 miles with no flats), so I figured if it ain't broke...

Go tubeless with the Captain Control version and you should save weight and get a sturdier tire to boot. I love the Captain Controls - not quite as fast as the Fast Trak LKs, but much more grippy.
The Specialized rep at my LBS said that Specialized were experimenting with how light they can get the S-Works tires. I noticed mine are "Made in Taiwan", but my buddy has the newer, slightly heavier "Made in Thailand" S-Works Fast Trak LK. The S rep said these newer ones have more rubber in the sidewall, and are slightly heavier, but much stronger.

My buddy put them on tubeless with 2 scoops of Stan's and they sealed up right away, and he hasn't lost any air in five days of riding! I may give the Fast Traks another try, but only if they say "Made in Thailand" on the (thicker) sidewall!
 
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