[Eazy_E]

If you and ten of your buddies(and some unleashed dogs) are riding and want to take a break and leave your bikes and dogs in the middle of trail, that's fine. Whatever. However, there's a lot better places to do it then on a blind curve of a downhill section of trail. Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this is a breach of etiquette.

For the record, nothing happened, but if I was really going fast, might not have been good.

 

[dirtbyte]

Agreed, that is bad form... I would probably have just said something like "You guys may want to move your bikes off the trail..." If they were in a blind corner, then I probably would have been going slow enough because I would have been watching for hikers / rocks / etc, so it would not have been much different. I have ridden in groups a lot, and it is easy to get caught up in the group and not realize you are on the trail. Usually someone in the group will notice and say, hey here comes a rider, we should get off the trail.

This was probably an isolated incident and I would not worry about it.

 

[raisingarizona]

Even if you are drunk on whiskey and she is "off leash" don't try to tap your buddies wife/girlfriend, that is very bad tail etiquette.

 

[Raybum]

yeah, in general, bad form for sure. But heck, we're all probably guilty of a few of those simply because we weren't thinking. If they were apologetic then no harm done.
But....speaking of trail etiquette, I was traveling east on T100, about a 1/2 mile west of cave creek on Wednesday, and some woman on a horse starts having a fit as I approach her. She's waving her arms, yelling at me from about 50 yards away. So I stop, move off the trail and let her by. I know it's a multi-use trail, but I just don't get taking a very nervous horse on T100 then being shocked when bikes show up.

 

[raisingarizona]

Well you just can't fix stupid I suppose. Parking in the middle of a blind corner on a speedy descent is not so smart, it's like hanging out in the middle of a ski slope on your bum with your back turned to the uphill traffic or even worse, hanging out under a blind roll over or jump. The lack of spacial awareness out there can be unbelievable.

Check out these kids at Snowbowl.

 

[eatdrinkride]

Hopefully an isolated incident. I've been guilty of it by sheer mistake.

We once stopped on a section of Porcupine because one of us had a bike issue. It was pretty wide open jeep track but in a very fast and ledgy/jumpy area. Before we even realized how we were impeding the flow a biker came hauling ass down. He got spooked because he didn't expect to see anyone there and he crashed kinda hard. I felt like a tool and was very apologetic.

Of the one hundred times I've been cognizant to get off trail when stopped all it takes is one quick lapse to look like you don't care. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[Mrwhlr]

She's waving her arms, yelling at me from about 50 yards away. So I stop, move off the trail and let her by. I know it's a multi-use trail, but I just don't get taking a very nervous horse on T100 then being shocked when bikes show up.

That **** don't work, I just laugh, 'cuz it gives 'em a hint not to step in my path.

 

[GR1822]

+1 for the obscure NWA lyric.

 

[tjkm]

yeah, in general, bad form for sure. But heck, we're all probably guilty of a few of those simply because we weren't thinking. If they were apologetic then no harm done.
But....speaking of trail etiquette, I was traveling east on T100, about a 1/2 mile west of cave creek on Wednesday, and some woman on a horse starts having a fit as I approach her. She's waving her arms, yelling at me from about 50 yards away. So I stop, move off the trail and let her by. I know it's a multi-use trail, but I just don't get taking a very nervous horse on T100 then being shocked when bikes show up.

The horse was probably scared of your gold chains and gansta rap blasting from your headphones. I think they can sense 'angry single speeders' too..

 

[Raybum]

The horse was probably scared of your gold chains and gansta rap blasting from your headphones. I think they can sense 'angry single speeders' too..

Good point, perhaps the blue chucks, and bottle of colt 45 was a giveaway.

 

[raisingarizona]

This thread has potential for gold. Horses, 40's, dogs off leash, NWA lyrics, and proper tail etiquette? Are you kidding me? All this needs is some ridiculous German disco music. Here ya go.......perfect.

 

[Raybum]

damn, I've gotta get me a kit like that dude in the green cumberbun...that would definitely amp up my trail anger!

 

[raisingarizona]

damn, I've gotta get me a kit like that dude in the green cumberbun...that would definitely amp up my trail anger!

Oh yes. If you amp it up and kill it like Dschinghis Khan you will be unstoppable!!!

WHOO........HA........WHOO.........HA!

 

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I've been guilty of stopping too close or in the trail before when not thinking, but you would think such a large group of people would know better. I've come to the conclusion that about 10% of the population is totally clueless and they don't even have the skills necessary to handle everyday life, unfortunately some of these people are mountan bikers.

Now about trail etiquitte, I was out at Usery MTP for the Rocky Mountain demo day, when I ran into about 35 horses with a bunch of beginner riders at least thats what it seemed. So after about 1/2 mile at less than walking speed where I couldn't pass or do anything, I start getting about 30 ft from the rear horse and it started to buck and get all nervous, so the rider turned around and yelled at me. "don't ever sneek up on a horse" I said sneek up, I've been stuck here for the last 10 minutes and there's no way to get around. Her reply was "this is a multiuse trail and you will just have to wait". So at that I throw the bike on my back and hike into the cacti and had to walk about a 1/3 mile in cycling shoes just to get arround these idiots. When I'm finally passed, the lead rider yells "these are multiuse trails and you need to be more considerate..." That's the final straw and I lost it and flipped him a hand signal and blasted them about "being more considerate".

Don't know what group this was, but can't imagine why people would think it's OK to have a group of 35 horses in a row on a single track trail where there is no way around them for over a mile on a busy weekend...:madmax:

 

[Phillbo]

Horses have rights to use the trails too.

 

[randyharris]

yeah, in general, bad form for sure. But heck, we're all probably guilty of a few of those simply because we weren't thinking. If they were apologetic then no harm done.
But....speaking of trail etiquette, I was traveling east on T100, about a 1/2 mile west of cave creek on Wednesday, and some woman on a horse starts having a fit as I approach her. She's waving her arms, yelling at me from about 50 yards away. So I stop, move off the trail and let her by. I know it's a multi-use trail, but I just don't get taking a very nervous horse on T100 then being shocked when bikes show up.

Clearly she doesn't know that T100 is your personal property.

 

[raisingarizona]

Yep, we are not meant to live like rats in cages. Living in populated areas puts most of us on a competitive edge.

 

[chollaball]

yeah, in general, bad form for sure. But heck, we're all probably guilty of a few of those simply because we weren't thinking. If they were apologetic then no harm done.
But....speaking of trail etiquette, I was traveling east on T100, about a 1/2 mile west of cave creek on Wednesday, and some woman on a horse starts having a fit as I approach her. She's waving her arms, yelling at me from about 50 yards away. So I stop, move off the trail and let her by. I know it's a multi-use trail, but I just don't get taking a very nervous horse on T100 then being shocked when bikes show up.

I ran into this riding Brown's Ranch during the McDs AES race. I don't give them 50 yards no matter how pissy they get . I pull over about 5 yards away like normal competent in-control people sharing a multiuse trail. If they are going slow, I will ask from a few yards back if I can pass. If they wont let me pass and won't work with me in a shared effort, I ride around, and eff them if it freaks out their horse - they shouldnt be on it and it shouldnt be on a multiuse trail if it gets scared when things come up behind it. I have yet to meet a horseperson I've liked for whom this has been problematic. I look at this like how I look at riding and hiking with kids - my kids being nervous or incompetent is not another trail user's burden, but we do still have to work together to share the trail. I expect to make my kids get out of the way constantly, to be yieldy for just about everyone, but i expect people to communicate and give my kids a little time to react.

 

[Casual Observer]

Yep, we are not meant to live like rats in cages. Living in populated areas puts most of us on a competitive edge.

Huh?

 

[Mtn-Rider]

Good tail etiquette is yoga pants on the trails. Why is everyone talking about trail etiquette? The title says "tail", lets see some tail etiquette, please.