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I am about to buy a Giant XTC2 and it comes with a RockShox Dart 3, 100mm w/Lockout. I road it in the parking lot and it just didn't feel good. I weigh 230 right now and probably wont get down below 215 for a long while. Originally I was going to be buying a used Yeti that came with a Fox Shock but that fell through. I now have 300 extra dollars to spend on the XTC2 and want to get a better Fork. What should I get? I will be riding in Florida and I don't think there are any "big" jumps around unless I make the long drive to Santos. Having a lock out is a feature I like becuase I will using it to commute as well and need to be able to just get the power down to the pedals to get to work. I've looked at some of the manufacture sites but not quite sure what would work best because I am new to the MTB scene.

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This sucks!!! 9 looks and no help. Has this question been asked before maybe? I'm sure it has but there are a lot of links to threads to be searching around and I'm sure not all of them weigh 230 lbs. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Take a look on Best Bike Zone, they have a Tora 318 Soloair for 199.xx. I just ordered one, so I'm not 100% on their policies, but they seamed friendly and looked in their stock when I called to ask about another model. At that price, it was worth the risk.
 

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I went to the Rock Shox website and although I'm not familiar what is good or what is great I picked some shox that were in the middle. The XC REBA and the All Mountain Pike. They are way too much for my pocket. The is a reality check that I'm not liking very much.
 

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I think you need to be clearer about what it is you don't like about the Dart 3.
Forks have a break-in period, so it may ride better after you put some miles on it. Also, at your weight, you may need a stiffer spring. If you're about to buy the bike from a shop, I would negotiate with them to replace the spring(s) for ones appropriate for your weight.
Based on the specs, I wouldn't expect a Dart 3 to ride terrible. It's a bit heavy for an XC fork and probably can't handle big hits, but should be ok for a recreational rider and not a bad starter fork for noobs.
 

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im 220 and ride a dart3 for now. you may have the firm spring in it depending on the size bike you are getting. its really not that bad of a fork for beginners. i ride the crap outta my bike and its holding up just fine to all the xc miles im putting on it. its got about 200 miles on it and i am by no means a graceful rider. just hang onto it until you need a new bike or need to upgrade.
 

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Thanks so much for th responses. To be more specific trailville, the shock was very mushy. I tried turning the nobs on top to make it stiff but that really didn't seem to make a difference. My biggest concern was that when I stood up to pedal hard a lot of power was lost with the front end mushing down.

Also, I do admit that I'm a noob to mountain biking but I'm not a noob to bike riding in general. I grew up riding bikes and not just to get to my buddies house. I road freestyle and ramps and streat. I know what I'm doing on a bike so when I finally get a mountain bike I expect the learning curve to be steep and so I want a fork that will be able to handle me at that time.

Thanks again for input guys. I will check on getting stiffer springs for the Dart3 and I will also check into the Tora and the Recon.

When you order new shocks do you get to specifiy what weight springs they come with?
 

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I just purchased a Tora 318 SE from Performance Bikes for $265.99. They have it for like $289 but they price matched a deal I found online. Plus I got a additional 10% off for buying between 12-2pm. Can't beat that deal. Haven't rode it yet but I hear its a good buy.
 

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Stop!!!!!!

Do not buy a bike and then spend $300 to upgrade the fork. You are throwing money away. Put the $300 towards the next model up. In this case, for $200 more you can get the XTC 1 which will get you a better fork and better brakes among other things.
 

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If your concerned about wasting power on the climbs (which should be only time you stand and pedal), just lock the fork out, and unlock the fork on descents.

Something to consider (if you haven't already) if you get a fork with more platform like SPV(ie less bobbing) your going to have to trade ride quality for that platform
 

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On my road bike I site 99% of the time so I understand how we are "supposed' to ride and I understand why we should ride that way. On my mountain bike though I want to be able to have the fun I had when I was a kid. I will be riding this to work as well as hitting the Florida trails. I want to be able to have fun no matter where I'm at and that means being able to hit little curbs and hills on the way to work as well as jumps and stuff on the trails. I just have been so confined on my road bike to the...well the road and now I have these ideas for being able to go anywhere once I get my mountain bike. I just want to make sure I have the best equipment to do that.

I wonder if the bike shop will allow me to only have to pay the difference in the price of an upgraded shock rather than me having to buy a completely new one.
 

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CDMC said:
Stop!!!!!!

Do not buy a bike and then spend $300 to upgrade the fork. You are throwing money away. Put the $300 towards the next model up. In this case, for $200 more you can get the XTC 1 which will get you a better fork and better brakes among other things.
I agree 100%, spending $200 more on the XTC1 would get you a lot more bang for your buck, ie a better fork and hydraulic brakes.

Also, I doubt that your local bike shop would let you 'pay the difference' on an upgrade fork, as that means they'd have to try to sell the Dart3 with an already cut down steerer tube. New Dart 3 forks with uncut steerers go for $125 on ebay...what's your local bike shop going to sell it for? $50 to $75 maybe??. Even then, it might be sitting on their shelf for a long time waiting for the right customer asking for that fork and having a bike that has a headtube length that would match up to the cut steerer tube length of the fork.
 

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cycle.tim said:
I am about to buy a Giant XTC2 and it comes with a RockShox Dart 3, 100mm w/Lockout. I road it in the parking lot and it just didn't feel good. I weigh 230 right now and probably wont get down below 215 for a long while. Originally I was going to be buying a used Yeti that came with a Fox Shock but that fell through. I now have 300 extra dollars to spend on the XTC2 and want to get a better Fork. What should I get? I will be riding in Florida and I don't think there are any "big" jumps around unless I make the long drive to Santos. Having a lock out is a feature I like becuase I will using it to commute as well and need to be able to just get the power down to the pedals to get to work. I've looked at some of the manufacture sites but not quite sure what would work best because I am new to the MTB scene.

Thanks!
I have a Judy and would give my right arm for a Dart 3. Actually, they only thing wrong with the Judy is the elastomers stiffen in cold weather, but I didn't need anything more in Florida..
 
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