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Brazos Trails and the CDT

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DaGoat

Discussion Starter · Dec 21, 2009 (Edited)

Hey Folks,

I'm as intrigued as Manida was about the Brazos area.

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=472047&highlight=Brazos

I know the CDT is being developed south from the Cumbres Pass and supposedly will cut through the Brazos somewhere. This summer I'm going to go exploring the "Forest Roads" Maka talks about and see if there's any single track to be found. If anyone has any input to give, lets make this the space!!! :thumbsup:

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DaGoat

Discussion Starter · #2 · Dec 21, 2009

Tony Marquez Trail

Found one trail up there that may have potential...

http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/carson/recreation/trails/trail-descriptions/trail_tony_marquez.shtml

and WOW... stumbled onto this...

http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/carson/recreation/trails/images/cdt_2008_.pdf

:thumbsup:

DaGoat

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 21, 2009

Maquinta Trail

One more... Maquinta Trail

We may go up and ski this area this week...

http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/carson/recreation/trails/trail-descriptions/trail_maquinita.shtml

makachut

· #4 · Dec 21, 2009

Plenty of single track too.apparently you can ride from Cumbres pass to Canjilon lakes.I've only rode for a few hours from Cumbres in that direction and would like to ride all the way to the Canjilon lakes this summer. I'll show you what I know or you could ask TurnerDave who lives in Chama,you know Dave don't you?

Mtn. Biker123

· #5 · Dec 21, 2009

makachut said:
Plenty of single track too.apparently you can ride from Cumbres pass to Canjilon lakes.I've only rode for a few hours from Cumbres in that direction and would like to ride all the way to the Canjilon lakes this summer. I'll show you what I know or you could ask TurnerDave who lives in Chama,you know Dave don't you?

Doug, does this trail go north ..as in up towards Del Norte? This would be a great bikepack adventure and one that is not "on the map". I bet the scenics are second to none!

makachut

· #6 · Dec 21, 2009

look @ a map

Mtn. Biker123 said:
Doug, does this trail go north ..as in up towards Del Norte? This would be a great bikepack adventure and one that is not "on the map". I bet the scenics are second to none!

to go north you check out a rio grande national forest map...we are talking about the carson national forest in New Mexico.and everything around there has been mapped there are no secrets up there just have to be willing to do some exploring.:thumbsup:
Around The Conejos river there's some nice single track.

DaGoat

Discussion Starter · #7 · Dec 22, 2009 (Edited)

makachut said:
Plenty of single track too.apparently you can ride from Cumbres pass to Canjilon lakes.I've only rode for a few hours from Cumbres in that direction and would like to ride all the way to the Canjilon lakes this summer. I'll show you what I know or you could ask TurnerDave who lives in Chama,you know Dave don't you?

I've met Dave Burdette... he's ridden a lot of the CDT South from the Cumbres. Hey Bry, Maka's right, you're talking about north from the Cumbres... What we're looking at is on the road from Tierra Amarilla to Tres Piedres (US64). It looks like from the map that there is a big section of CDT from Hopewell Lake north that has been established. It peters out around the Cruces Basin Wilderness, but picks up again north of that. I know Dave talked about hitting a forest road about 10 miles south of the Cumbres. That may be where he's talking about.

I know we only got about 3-4 miles in before we turned back so there's plenty more to check out SOUTH of the Colorado Border... I'm into exploring it, so let's plan on it... :thumbsup:

Mtn. Biker123

· #8 · Dec 22, 2009

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Ummmm...he's talking about connecting the CDT from below @ Tierra Amarilla, right. That's north!

Well, it pops out @ apache Creek which is not too far from the route I'm talkin about...

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DaGoat

Discussion Starter · #9 · Dec 22, 2009

Mtn. Biker123 said:
Ummmm...he's talking about connecting the CDT from below @ Tierra Amarilla, right. That's north!

Well, it pops out @ apache Creek which is not too far from the route I'm talkin about...

Way over the Colorado Border Bry... We're talking NM here...

Mtn. Biker123

· #10 · Dec 22, 2009

DaGoat said:
Way over the Colorado Border Bry... We're talking NM here...

Why do you hate America?

Why draw lines Doug?

DaGoat

Discussion Starter · #11 · Dec 22, 2009

Mtn. Biker123 said:
Why do you hate America?

Why draw lines Doug?

Cause I only have so many hours in a weekend!!!

Mtn. Biker123

· #12 · Dec 22, 2009

DaGoat said:
Cause I only have so many hours in a weekend!!!

Good answer. I'm going North in 2010. I have heard of some good backcountry up there (and I've never ridden in CO:madman: ). Maybe even the Pass over to Wolf Creek:thumbsup:

greg de taos

· #13 · Dec 22, 2009

CDT maps

I have a bunch more of the area. These depict the CDT according to the Forest Service.

Key to understanding Carson CDT Maps 2008
The blue colored trail has been built and is ready for hiking.
The red indicates the route suggested by Rec Solutions.
The yellow line is the route that is proposed and is still under construction.
The following are some hints by trail section.
o Dixie Creek: follow the trail from the north to FRS 686 for about 1.7 miles to FSR 686A2 to the Brazos Fork section.
o Follow the Brazos Fork section to FSR 87.
o Follow FSR 87 to the turn for the Lagunitas CG.
o Follow the Lagunitas section to FSR 93.
o Follow the Hopewell section to HWY 64. This section is yellow on the map but is singed and ready for use.
o From Hopewell lake CG follow FSR 91B about 7 miles to the Vallecitos section.
o Follow the Vallecitos section to FSR 274 To FSR 559. Go left (east) on FSR 559 (about ¼ mile) to FSR 724A
o Follow FSR 724A to FSR 724. Follow 724 to Harris Bear Spring. Take FSR 1895 to Martinez Canyon.
o Follow Martinez Canyon to HWY 84.
o Until the Santa Fe National Forest has finished the San Juaquin Canyon the Mesa DE Las Viejas section is not recommended.

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Mtn. Biker123

· #14 · Dec 22, 2009

Good stuff!. There looks to be even more good ST near Apache Creek...which I think leads to Cumbres. This is exactly the trail that we started on Doug, when the storm rolled in. I believe Dave said that you could do a 30-40 out and back from the Pass.

greg de taos

· #15 · Dec 22, 2009

I have them all the way up to the border, let me know how I can fill in any gaps any of your have.

Crash88

· #16 · Dec 22, 2009

Mtn. Biker123 said:
Good answer. I'm going North in 2010. I have heard of some good backcountry up there (and I've never ridden in CO:madman: ). Maybe even the Pass over to Wolf Creek:thumbsup:

We rode in colorado just started in new mexico.

makachut

· #17 · Dec 22, 2009

In winter

One good way to cover large amounts of miles is togo up there in the dead of winter and rent a snow mobile .Guided by a local

Mtn. Biker123

· #18 · Dec 22, 2009

makachut said:
One good way to cover large amounts of miles is togo up there in the dead of winter and rent a snow mobile .Guided by a local

:thumbsup:

sounds fun!

DaGoat

Discussion Starter · #19 · Dec 26, 2009

greg de taos said:
I have a bunch more of the area. These depict the CDT according to the Forest Service.

Thanks a bunch Greg... This helps a lot!!! Can't wait for the summer melt to begin!!! :thumbsup:

chuck80442

· #20 · Jan 8, 2010

A few years of hiking in the Brazos actually inspired me to finally start mountain biking this past spring...not too much single track, but many many hundreds of miles of two track and old logging roads through big meadows, up and down nice rolling hills, big views, aspen groves galore. And unless it's hunting season, totally devoid of people. The view from Brazos ridge is one of the best in the southwest. I'm still not sure of the best bike routes (like I said, was a hiker/backpacker before recently falling in love with my mountain bike...) but I've explored the roads into valle grande (just east of broke off mountain) from U.S 64 and the San Antonio forest service road (north of Tres Piedras) and just that small section offers lots of possibilities. Beware: the forest service maps on the USGS website are often decades old, so check with the ranger station if you're not sure.

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