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Brand old Wily All mountain 29'er SS porn

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Brad built me up this bike almost a year ago. I have pretty much ridden this bike exclusively for the past year. Brad was willing to do everything I wanted which on paper was borderline bizarre when viewed individually. But I digress- it all adds up in the result.




Why's it special?
1. Well the sliding rear dropouts were special a year ago. But I still like them. A LOT. No issues and I think they are elegant.
2. Hardtail designed around a 4" BW1.0 with 29" wheels. 2.9" headtube. Tandem downtube for stiffness. I ride like a jackass and I have NEVER been over the bars on this thing. I asked for slowish handling and it's perfect, have to work it a lil bit in the tight singletrack which is A-OK with me because it absolutely rails the downhills with no nervous twitchiness. He absolutely nailed my "out of spec" handling request. Me so happy.
3. Bottom bracket design. Isis stinks. External bearings are dumb. Show an external bearing setup to any non-cycling engineer or mechanic and they will tell you external bearings are just dumb, dumb, dumb. Solution? It's a custom frame right? Get a BB shell that can actually house bearings that will stand up to some abuse. www.oversizebb.com. I went through 4 ISIS BB in 1.5 years. This MEGATECH is still perfectly smooth after a year with LOTS of tough offroad miles + torque associated with SS only use. Especially shocking when I pulled it apart and BB shell had lots of crud in it. Is this solution: Weird? yes. Obsolete already? Maybe. Works? Absolutely!
4. Sloping downtube. 25" top tube 17" seatube. Lots of exposed seatpost = softtail feel + zero maintenance.

Why is it one year later and why is the paint new? I cracked the disc brake side chainstay/droput weld. Clearly braking force induced. Sad, sad day when I discovered that... Brad was good about taking the bike back and discussing options. We decided to weld in a brace to eliminate the seatstay/chainstay flex that contributed to the crack. I won't lie; the return took much longer than I had hoped, but a lot of that was due to the leadtimes at Spectrum Powderworks. I did upgraded paint the first time around and Brad honored/ate the cost to get me a similar value paintjob (hopefully Spectrum helped him on that). There is a reason people wait the ridiculous leadtimes for Spectrum's work. STUNNING.

Mostly I want to thank Brad who is still a small builder who will do whatever he can to make things right. Again he made me a frame that any number of manufacturers would probably say there is NO market for and he absolutely nailed it. The geometry is so right it makes me hate everything else I throw a leg over.

It's easy to gush over a new bike when it's perfect and shiny new, but I think it's much more telling to see what a builder does when something goes wrong and he has to spend whatever margin he made to make everything right again. It seems the Wily buzz on this board has died with so many more options out there, but please keep Wily in mind- Brad is a super classy guy and he truly excels at getting you the most out of the "full custom" option.
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MotoMark said:
3. Bottom bracket design. Isis stinks. External bearings are dumb. Show an external bearing setup to any non-cycling engineer or mechanic and they will tell you external bearings are just dumb, dumb, dumb. Solution? It's a custom frame right? Get a BB shell that can actually house bearings that will stand up to some abuse. www.oversizebb.com. I went through 4 ISIS BB in 1.5 years. This MEGATECH is still perfectly smooth after a year with LOTS of tough offroad miles + torque associated with SS only use. Especially shocking when I pulled it apart and BB shell had lots of crud in it. Is this solution: Weird? yes. Obsolete already? Maybe. Works? Absolutely!
Amen !
Awesome post Mark. Interesting information on the BB design. Right on the money about working with Wily and Brad - the guy is top notch and helped me out tremendously.

Now let's see some pics of the bike all built up.
Timo said:
Now let's see some pics of the bike all built up.
+1 :D
These just in...

https://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/502/medium/wily_builtup1.JPG
https://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/502/medium/wily_builtup2.JPG

As far as BB go my 26"geared bike uses a good old UN72. Can't kill them...

The build
Ritchey Carbon WCS bar OS
ODI Ruffian lockon grips
Thomson Elite X2 OS
King headset (polished)
BW 1.0
Velocity Dyad Rims/Supercomp spokes/ black brass nipples
front hub Ringle Abbah SOS with D shaped bolt-on axle (D shape fills the fork dropout- my arm dyno says much stiffer than QR but way more convenient then thru-axle)
current tires (Exiwolf front/Ignitor rear)
Rear Hub White Ind Eno Disc (STD,Non eccentric)
White Ind ENO Dos Eno freewheel 17/19 (19 for offroad)
Magura Louise Freeride (210 front/190 rear) Bad ass brakes!!!
Megatech bb
Truvativ Holzfeller w/33T and Blackspire bash guard
Sram PC 58
Time ATAC
FSA 380mm KForceLite layback post
Fizik Nisene saddle
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Now THAT is a custom bike!
Props for having the balls to differ with that BB, I shows a man has fully matured as a rider and wrencher.

Ride it hard!

J
Interesting approach on the BB. Reminds me of early Merlin's or some of the C-dale stuff. Similar to the American BB on most BMX style bikes. Press in cups with sealed bearings. Usually a straight/proprietary axle (eg Profiles) not ISIS. I'm a wimp though - until stuff like this gets a little more mainstream, I'm afraid of replacement parts down the road.

I'd echo the UN72/3 comment. My favorite $/grams/durability by far. Phil is another. I've never really understood the industry desire to go Octa-Isis-External BB. What was wrong with square taper? Equipped with self extrator bolts, square tapers were all of this and more. Can't remember too many tales of woe re a Phill BB.

The Wily looks sweet BTW. Very classy looking build. Enjoy!
'time' seems to be a common theme as I am now well into the 16th week waiting for my frame. I am hoping it is at least at Spectrum.
Hmm. I saw a bike very similar to that one sitting on a car at the bottom of Bear Creek on Tuesday. Was that you? Sadly I didn't have my camera or I'd have snapped a pic.

Oh, and I like Wilys. :thumbsup:
Beautiful steed! Those dropouts R Saaaaweet!
Nice bike, Moto, despite what Meanpants says about the color! It's nice to see that 29ers are starting to see a presence in the ATL. You should consider bringing that Wily up to the Double Dare race in October -- I hear E's about to rename the race to "Don't dare bring your small wheels" since most folks doing it have 29ers.
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