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Let me start out by saying, I just got back into biking this past July and really think this has been the best thing I have ever done for myself physically as well as mentally!

I have ridden mountain bike in the past but got back into road riding when I returned to the sport. I saw a Pugsley at the LBS this past week and I LOVED IT! The fact that I can build this thing myself even makes it more exciting. I will have the help of the local bike shop as well as my own mechanical skills - so that should not be a problem. My issues are around making a choice on components. The LBS has given suggestions but I still want to do some research on my own.

Here is what I was planning:

1) Single chain ring up front
2) Alfine 8 speed hub
3) Large Marge wheels with Surly single speed hub up front

I have heard that the rims are out of stock - I can wait as long as they are still going to make them - thought I read that they might be changing design?

About the Alfine - it looks to me that the reason they are out of stock is that those also are going to be changing? The concern here is what the new ones will be for hole count and if they are still going to work for the Pug?

Could I run a single ring up front with a 8 speed cassette in the rear? I understand the associated parts would be different (shifter, derailleur, etc.) but is that an option and maybe a little more durable?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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--Rob
 

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hi Rob, you can find the alfines at Harris. I checked the other day and it was back in stock. It was the 36h version, so keep that in mind as you shop for rims. this also is the new version of the alfine, the sg-s501. the difference between this and the previous version (sg-500, i think) is that the new one has a 'tripple roller clutch' design as opposed to the double. they say this is better and shifts smoother, i took their word for it.

as for the rims, check around this forum. some folks have found alternatives to the marge. i think it was speedway cycles? but i could be wrong. the widths with the other rims were larger than the marge's 65mm, i think they were 80mm. you can fit regular 26in tires on the large marge in a pinch, not sure about 80mm rims.

one other thing to note is that the 2009 18in frames are getting rare. you might find yourself waiting till december for the 2010, which has a new color and lower TT.

i am in the parts gathering/saving money/selling stuff phase of my alfine pug build. you can find a ton of great info on this forum and others, like the google group.
good luck with your build!
 

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aljee,

Thanks for the reply. I already have an '09 Gray 20" frame coming.

Are the Marge rims only available in 32h? That is what I thought the LBS had mentioned. Is the new Alfine available in 32h? I will have to check to see if there is a price difference from old style to new....do you know?

Other question is do I use a Mr. Whirly crank and only use the center ring for the single?

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the lm rims in the dh variety do come in 36h, not sure about the xc version. the dh rims are significantly less expensive, i believe. 36h dh was all i could find at the time, so it kinda worked out cause all i could find in an alfine was a 36h.
i am not sure about a price diff between the old and new alfines. all i could get was the s501 with the parts kit. it was recommended to me to get one with a kit and stay away from the OEM versions. you will also need blue/green non-turn washers for vertical cable routing, Harris includes these and also sells them.
Mr Whirly is available as a single ring, BUT last time i checked they didn't have a 100mm bb version of the single. there are other options for the crankset which are discussed at length on this forum. the triple Mr Whirly is available with the 100mm bb. and yeah, i haven't tried it yet, but all the research i did indicates that you can in general ditch the big and small chain rings with out problems. you may how ever need to grind down stock chain ring bolts or just buy shorter ones. not sure if that is the case yet with the whirly. i picked up the triple so i later can experiment with different gearing. i plan to build a 29er set and would like to try out the big ring on the streets (a chain tensioner would be necessary, btw).
have some geeky fun!
 

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Alfine 32 H on CRC :- http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=35102

LM`s here :- http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/RI407A01-Surly+Large+Marge+Dh+Rim.aspx?sc=FRGLUK&cc=GBP

In 32 and 36H. Also do the XC version.

I`ve been very please with my Alfine`d Pug so far :thumbsup:

I did start off with 9spd and a triple up front initially, but a combination of significant personal mass (265lbs) and beach riding took it`s tole on the chain.

Now I have a perfect chain line with a massive nickle plated single speed chain and things are much better :)

Looks like this :- http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=549168
 

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Dr Feelygood ! said:
Alfine 32 H on CRC :- http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=35102

LM`s here :- http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/RI407A01-Surly+Large+Marge+Dh+Rim.aspx?sc=FRGLUK&cc=GBP

In 32 and 36H. Also do the XC version.

I`ve been very please with my Alfine`d Pug so far :thumbsup:

I did start off with 9spd and a triple up front initially, but a combination of significant personal mass (265lbs) and beach riding took it`s tole on the chain.

Now I have a perfect chain line with a massive nickle plated single speed chain and things are much better :)

Looks like this :- http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=549168

those rims aren't drilled offset. the offset rims are necessary for the pug. like the one you are using Dr. Feelygood! :D looks like you got away with non-offset in the front cause of the different fork?

that alfine doesn't have the parts kit, but i think you can get it separately, for not a lot of moneys. so you might look into that.
 

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aljee said:
those rims aren't drilled offset. the offset rims are necessary for the pug. like the one you are using Dr. Feelygood! :D looks like you got away with non-offset in the front cause of the different fork?

that alfine doesn't have the parts kit, but i think you can get it separately, for not a lot of moneys. so you might look into that.
Full Alfine bits list on CRC :- http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/SearchResults.aspx?Search=alfine

Parts kit on CRC :- http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=35105

My bad :D I didn't notice the ones that I posted were not offset.

Here are some 36h offset rims :-

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=13932

It`s true that you need a none offset rim if you are going for the Maverick SC32 fork option.

Big list here :- http://www.thefind.com/search?query=large+marge+dh+rim+offset
 

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Thanks for all the help. I was advised by the "tech" guy at the LBS to go with regular MTB gearing setup on my Pug. Reasons were increased weight of bike and the fact that I am not light myself (295lbs). He did not want me to be disappointed and the costs appear to be about the same depending on exactly what I spec. Right now planning on X9 compnents except for the front derailleur which will be XT.

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I talked to a Pug'd snow rider and he suggested a 2x whatever you have on the back. He rides with a 24/34 up front, no front der. If conditions dictate you can manually flip the chain between rings. One less moving part to freeze up.

-J-No
 

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No problemo !

9 speed is fine, just not so good with sand :D

You can always `Alfine` in the future if you like .
 

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plan it...build it....ride it...love it....:thumbsup:
Quote of the day! Updated my IM message :thumbsup:
 

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Well, now that rims are out until 12/15 - this will slow things down. I am still acquiring parts but at a slower pace.....

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You could always run 70mm Speedway or 80mm Vicious rims. I'm sure the 80mm Vicious is available now. Just an alternative to think about, instead of waiting 2 months.
 
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