[MarcusBrody]

What brands to do you see as being fundamentally similar, either by building similarly intentioned bikes or by attracting similar customer bases?

Obviously most brands offer bikes that are differently intentioned, but they often either share some character or the brand is really defined by their focus on a particular segment.

For instance, I associate Knolly, Transition, and Guerrilla Gravity. Iin my mind they're focused on building tough, descent focused bikes and with prime appeal to biker bros (in the best way possible, I like all three brands).

Similarly I associate Ibis and Pivot as light, very good pedaling bikes that appeal to a more affluent demographic with less focus on getting rad and more on covering a decent distance.

Obviously there are specific counterexamples, but that's the type of thing I mean.

So, what are your brand clusters?

 

[Boulder Pilot]

Charmine, Scott, & Cottonelle Ultra Comfort.

 

[.WestCoastHucker.]

all of them

 

[127.0.0.1]

all of them

/thread

 

[jestep]

Whatever brand can figure out: Strong, Light, Cheap, pick three, the best...

 

[127.0.0.1]

Charmine, Scott, & Cottonelle Ultra Comfort.

I want to know more about this new MATH

I'm a friggin rocket scientist and can capture lighting in a bottle but cannot figure this out

 

[KingOfOrd]

MEGA PLUS
DOUBLE PLUS

That's just going to clog up the pipes

 

[Boulder Pilot]

Screw you guys, I'm going home!

 

[127.0.0.1]

downcountry double-wide PLUS

 

[JackWare]

But are they quilted?

 

[MOJO K]

I want to know more about this new MATH

I'm a friggin rocket scientist and can capture lighting in a bottle but cannot figure this out

Keep in mind that there can be clearance issues for some of those....you'll need to go boost spacing.

 

[Cornfield]

Keep in mind that there can be clearance issues for some of those....you'll need to go boost spacing.

Yup, they make a spacer kit for that. I like this one with handle grips.

 

[TheDwayyo]

What brands to do you see as being fundamentally similar, either by building similarly intentioned bikes or by attracting similar customer bases?

Obviously most brands offer bikes that are differently intentioned, but they often either share some character or the brand is really defined by their focus on a particular segment.

For instance, I associate Knolly, Transition, and Guerrilla Gravity. Iin my mind they're focused on building tough, descent focused bikes and with prime appeal to biker bros (in the best way possible, I like all three brands).

Similarly I associate Ibis and Pivot as light, very good pedaling bikes that appeal to a more affluent demographic with less focus on getting rad and more on covering a decent distance.

Obviously there are specific counterexamples, but that's the type of thing I mean.

So, what are your brand clusters?

Stereotypes like this just aren't useful. For instance, if I were to go shopping based on your stereotypes I'd dismiss Pivot despite their Firebird being an excellent candidate for the riding I do. I get that your mind forms these associations, but you should be trying to replace them with actual accurate representations of the brands rather than reinforcing them.

Damn that sounded like a Sesame Street segment. :skep: