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i aint knocking the Far East. Plenty of Far East on my bike including the frame, and I know Taiwan is the centre of bike production, but I really think it's that time now, now that I cannot find engineering work any longer in my crappy broken country, and now that my home is filled with cheap labour Chinese goods, to Buy stuff made by Europeans, Brits, or Yanks/Canucks.

So what is still made in these countries?

I got Hope headset, BB, Hubs, and skewers.. so got a touch of British..

I got Hayes brakes, which I hope are US made otherwise I will be very dissapointed

What about Sunline? Lezyne? What exists that isn't Far East origin?.
 

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The Hope skewer is the best skewer I have ever used BTW.. really tight, firm, bite action... very reassuring.
 

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Hey at least I didn't say UK!!!! I hate that word.

Besides, Hope is Yorkshire. that's very nearly Scotland! LOL.
How very dare you sir!Hope is made in Lancashire,not in Yorkshire (Gods own county) :rolleyes:
There are two Barnoldswicks,one in Lancashire(large Village),one in North Yorkshire(tiny Hamlet) and about 10 miles apart.Hope are made in the Lancs one.
 

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9speed said:
The Hope skewer is the best skewer I have ever used BTW.. really tight, firm, bite action... very reassuring.
You must be British - Hope skewers are garbage!!! I just pulled them off of my RIP9 because the camming action is too weak and they wouldn't stay clamped down. In fact, Hope skewers are the one mountain bike product that I have recently recommended to all of my friends to avoid. Hope hubs are awesome though - I have them on 4 of my bikes.
 

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Haven't we been through this already?
Oh well.
Here are just a few:

Made in USA:
Thomson stems and posts.
Chris King headsets and bottom brackets.
White Industries hubs and cranks.
Turner, Intense, Ventana, and a zillion custom frames .
 

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Thor29 said:
Haven't we been through this already?
Oh well.
Here are just a few:

Made in USA:
Thomson stems and posts.
Chris King headsets and bottom brackets.
White Industries hubs and cranks.
Turner, Intense, Ventana, and a zillion custom frames .
I am terribly sorry that you have had this conversation before. How very dare we discuss something you have already discussed!

As for Hope skewers... you sure you talking about the new ones? I can't imagine a skewer biting as hard as this baby does. Much tighter and firmer than my SHimano skewers. Well impressed. I got the brand new shape ones.
 

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I am terribly sorry that you have had this conversation before. How very dare we discuss something you have already discussed!

As for Hope skewers... you sure you talking about the new ones? I can't imagine a skewer biting as hard as this baby does. Much tighter and firmer than my SHimano skewers. Well impressed. I got the brand new shape ones.
How are you evaluating tightness and firmness? Not saying I don't believe that these could be better, but Shimano skewers can seem deceiving because they create more clamping force with less lever effort. They may feel easier to open by hand than other skewers and at the same time actually be clamping harder. I haven't done any scientific testing either to measure the forces, but my XT skewer has held my rear wheel in place on my slot dropout SS better than any external cam skewer ever did (although I haven't tried these new Hopes yet)
 

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Orange build frames here in the UK. My SubZero (hardtail) is a pretty home-grown affair, at least if I consider myself European. The frame is English; fork ('07 66 RC2X) is Italian; headset, BB, hubs, brakes, seat-clamp and stem are all English (Hope), wheel rims are French (Mavic), spokes are Swiss (DT Swiss), and the chain is German (Wippermann).

Thomson seat post and e.thirteen chain ring are made in the US of A.

So that leaves Shimano cranks, cassette, shifter, handlebar and grips; DMR pedals and an SDG saddle. Not that bad in the scheme of things.
 

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On my bikes:

Formula brakes: Italy
Hope brakes: Won't jump into that... but same as the rest of their stuff.
My wheels are entirely USA... King hubs, DT Comp spokes, and Bontrager Duster rims. Built by me.
Lots of Race Face's stuff is manufactured in BC, Canada.
Time pedals: France
Mavic: France
Thomson (as mentioned before): USA
Fizik saddles: Italy
Phil Wood: USA
some Marzocchi stuff is still made in Italy IIRC.
At least some of Fox's stuff is US made.
Paul (brakes and such): USA
White Industries: USA
Oury grips (and others made by ODI): USA
Some Continental tires: Germany
 

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My Cannondale Say's "Made In The USA" All over it...............;)
 

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I love these discussions, I always learn something new. It sickens me that the vast majority of the market for hi-end bikes is North America or Europe, we basically invented the sport, but we now only produce a fraction of the gear...greedy marketers.

Here's my list:

Edge Composites (bars, rims)
Paul Components (brake levers, etc.)
Salsa skewers (but not their seatpost clamps)
LP Composites
Fox suspension stuff is US-assembled--dunno know about parts content.
Profile Racing
White Brothers (not their rigid fork tho)
Vicious cycles
Enduro bottom brackets, etc.
Cane creek shocks, seatposts, and the hi-end headsets
Park tools
Vuelta chainrings (highly recommended too)
ODI grips
Wheelsmith spokes
most Ellsworth, several Titus frames
Twenty6
Wingnut (hydration packs)
Mt Borah (shorts, etc)
J&G Cyclewear
Aerotech Designs (shorts)
Polar water bottles
Magura
 

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you can find engineering work, just say you're willing to work for as much as they will pay those that are working for them overseas. Its all about the company and its wages to you. They're not hiring you because you want too much money from them.
 

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you can find engineering work, just say you're willing to work for as much as they will pay those that are working for them overseas. Its all about the company and its wages to you. They're not hiring you because you want too much money from them.
I hate to flame but this is possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

Anyway just about everything made for a bike can be found not made in Taiwan/China. Its not easy, its expensive, and some things are harder to find than others. This subject used to bother me quite a bit but I've since lightened up on it a bit after understanding some of the economics of it.
 
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