I got my new frame the other day and this thing is sick! $500 for a USA made (materials too) frame is awesome! The quality and attention to detail is amazing. If you are wanting to get a new frame check these out, you call blkmrkt and Carter (owner) answers, he is a hellofa nice guy, a US Marine too, i bugged him several times about details and he was always more than welcome to answer them! That kinda bussiness is awesome. Cant wait to get this bike built up n ride!