[D Wang]

I am looking to pick up a new frame. I am deciding between the Versus Blitz ll and the Turner RFX. Feedback on both would be much appreciated.

 

[mtb_biker]

What are you using the bike for? The Turner forum is where you'll get more feedback on the RFX.

 

[D Wang]

I will use the bike as my all around bike. This style includes 4 to 5 foot drops to flat fast single track and techy cross country.

 

[konut]

coiler sounds good to me

 

[G-AIR]

Rfx

RFX if you can still find one of the 05-06s for cheap....$1350- I think.

RFX is proven, tough, great geometry for intended use, top notch CS, will hold its value, is a great deal at the blowout prices.....and so forth. You can go pretty darn big on the RFX or build it up for an AM ripper.

The Versus looks sweet, but i have no experience on one. I just know the RFX is a killer ride.

Please do not compare the Coiler to the RFX!

Good luck...Keep us posted.
TG

 

[zachdank]

The RFX is way sicker than the Blitz poo. I mean 2. Go with the Turner fo sho.
You couldn't pay me enough money to ride a Blitz.

 

[dogonfr]

I will use the bike as my all around bike. This style includes 4 to 5 foot drops to flat fast single track and techy cross country.

The Blitz II is a sweet do all bike. Tight twisting single track it reacts to your input with ease, 4+ foot drops a blast, silty slick rock gardens are rock solid rip it down the middle. Drifting the Blitz II through a corner is a dream, extreamly smooth & predictable. As for the XC im not a great climber but the Blitz II climbs bob free & pedal's smooth. :thumbsup:

 

[dd13]

check out the RFX videeo on the turner sight.however,it seems as though the blitz is marketed more towards a freeride crowd where the RFX towards an all mountain/light freeride...i could be off.

when will the needlebearings vs. bushings debate start???

 

[mtb_biker]

the turner video is also here

 

[dogonfr]

Both are extreamly sweet frames. What makes one better than the other?? the owner. The debate between bushing & needle is a tough call. The advantage of both is the width the prevents lateral flex. Both use zerk fittings to maintain lubrication. Moto's used to run bushings but found needle bearings to be more effective in the swingarm & shock linkage. :thumbsup:

 

[boone]

DGFR, wouldn't you say the biggest diff is in frame weight (neglecting needles and such)?
Other than that they should be pretty similar I think. The two listed geos are the same, both have grease ports to nice bearing/zerk and both are pretty stiff in the rear.

Both of those bikes are really nice but IMHO, and don't take offense, both of them are overkill for 4-5 ft drops and techy XC unless you are a larger fella. They would be great bikes if you want to progress into bigger riding, but I think it would not be worth it to have such a stout frame for techy xc.

Something a bit lighter with slightly tighter geo would really rip the techy XC and handle 4-5ft drops ok with the right parts. Maybe even think about a 5 pack. That is what I would prolly do.

Just my .02

 

[SHAHEEB]

RFX! Wang Mang!

Show those chings, and cant get rights whats its all about.

Custom paint it so yours stands out

versus,hmmm. sure it'll work. but I would never get one.
Support a true riders Co. and try the Turner.

Turner lives to ride another day.

 

[dogonfr]

DGFR, wouldn't you say the biggest diff is in frame weight (neglecting needles and such)?
Other than that they should be pretty similar I think. The two listed geos are the same, both have grease ports to nice bearing/zerk and both are pretty stiff in the rear.

Both of those bikes are really nice but IMHO, and don't take offense, both of them are overkill for 4-5 ft drops and techy XC unless you are a larger fella. They would be great bikes if you want to progress into bigger riding, but I think it would not be worth it to have such a stout frame for techy xc.

Something a bit lighter with slightly tighter geo would really rip the techy XC and handle 4-5ft drops ok with the right parts. Maybe even think about a 5 pack. That is what I would prolly do.

Just my .02

Geo is different as is the weight. It all comes down to the nut holding the handlebars. :thumbsup:

 

[mtb_biker]

DGFR, wouldn't you say the biggest diff is in frame weight (neglecting needles and such)?
Other than that they should be pretty similar I think. The two listed geos are the same, both have grease ports to nice bearing/zerk and both are pretty stiff in the rear.

Both of those bikes are really nice but IMHO, and don't take offense, both of them are overkill for 4-5 ft drops and techy XC unless you are a larger fella. They would be great bikes if you want to progress into bigger riding, but I think it would not be worth it to have such a stout frame for techy xc.

Something a bit lighter with slightly tighter geo would really rip the techy XC and handle 4-5ft drops ok with the right parts. Maybe even think about a 5 pack. That is what I would prolly do.

Just my .02

Both bikes I agree do sound a bit overkill. Call me crazy but I think he needs a slightly beefier XC bike too. It will build up lighter than the Blitz could ever hope, and you'll enjoy it more on XC rides.

If it came down to it i'd get a Turner for what you described. It will have a resale value if you ever decide to part ways, and it will build up a lot lighter and be more enjoyable on the more XC rides. Turner also has some of the best CS.

 

[D Wang]

Shaheeb you know 5 out of the 7 guys in my crew (Team Sanchez) ride the rfx or six pack, but the homers have tunnel vision when it comes to a new purchase. Don't get me wrong the RFX is a sweet ride. But I wonder if there might be something a little better.

As far as needles go I think the highline has them, so they must be better right?

I have established that the speshy sx trail won't do, it only lasted 6 mos. and the chain stays stays broke clean off.

My buddy El C cracked his RFX frame but he is 230 lb strong.

Are there any reports of breakage with the blitz ll?

 

[ebxtreme]

I'd say other good options to consider beyond the RFX and Blitz:

• Nomad
• Reign X - I've got a Reign and love that bike so far.
• Devinci Hektik (Canadian version)
• RM Slayer
• Transition Covert or maybe Bottle Rocket (BR is probably too stout for all day riding though). Since Robbie threw out the "support the true rider co" comment. I'll just say the Transition boys are very much a real riders company and they push the limits in a big way. While their frames may be overbuilt for many of the riders out there, they have to hold up to their riding first and foremost.
• Intense 6.6 (Colorado Cyclist has some frames on sale right now)
• Coiler / Coilair - newly designed with lower standover and longer stroke shock
• Norco Six
• Titus Supermoto
• Marin Quake - Ok this bike doesn't have a lot of folks riding it so the durability isn't really known but the reviews have been super favorable as to it's ride quality. I'm kind of intrigued by it....but haven't heard any real rider reviews on it and there aren't any marin dealers nearby anymore that I know of. Interestingly, Shaums March rode a beefed up version of this bike to 1st in the world masters dh championship, fwiw.

 

[geolover]

I know it's not one of your choices, but I'll second the vote for the Titus Supermoto. Super strong and stiff. Relatively short wheelbase makes it a great bike for techy stuff. Can be built up as a light 6 inch trail bike (that can handle whistler) or burly 40 pound FR bike.

good luck on your search

cheers

edit: also can be purchased on closeout from Speedgoat for 1149.

 

[dogonfr]

Shaheeb you know 5 out of the 7 guys in my crew (Team Sanchez) ride the rfx or six pack, but the homers have tunnel vision when it comes to a new purchase. Don't get me wrong the RFX is a sweet ride. But I wonder if there might be something a little better.

As far as needles go I think the highline has them, so they must be better right?

I have established that the speshy sx trail won't do, it only lasted 6 mos. and the chain stays stays broke clean off.

My buddy El C cracked his RFX frame but he is 230 lb strong.

Are there any reports of breakage with the blitz ll?

There have been no reports of cracked or broken Blitz II frames. Versus frames do go through real mountain testing in all conditions including gaps, check out the link to Versus riders-West Coast Ka'lei i belive is about your friends size or a little targer. http://www.versuscycles.com/riders.html

 

[D Wang]

Well Bro's I pulled the TRIGGER on a 06 Turner RFX this morning. It was on ebay for 910.00 shipped. The bike is in mint condition. I couldn't pass that up. Thanks for the replys.

Wang

 

[coma13]

Well Bro's I pulled the TRIGGER on a 06 Turner RFX this morning. It was on ebay for 910.00 shipped. The bike is in mint condition. I couldn't pass that up. Thanks for the replys.

Wang

You won't be disappointed! What shock is on it?