My comment was based on the seemingly steep increase in the price of the Black Sheep frame. I have looked at their site and the High Roller- which is similar to this cruiser- save for a few less tubes, is going for $2500- $3000. I can only guess the retail of the fork to be around $1200-$1500 based on the amount of material used. I am not diminishing James work or his skills as a builder, just questioning the seemingly steep price increase.JSD303 said:Righttt... Because all those Ti tubes are probably free to the builder. And I imagine that much welding and bending would take zero time and skill whatsoever. I wish these handbuilt pieces of art were more in line with Specialized Rockhopper pricing.
I am confused, I don't see a cantilever on that frame. Explain.el-cid said:Beautiful craftsmanship but I don't care for the frame and fork together. I just don't think the cantilever frame style translates very well as a mountain bike frame. The Lynskey from NAHBS is the best looking one I've seen yet. Maybe it's the paint that does it for me.
I wasn't referring to the brakes, I knew there were no canti brakes, I was just trying to see the cantilever of the frame.el-cid said:That style of cruiser frame with the seatstays that curve from the dropouts to the downtube is refered to as a cantilever style frame; nothing to do with the brakes.
Looks like it is belt drive compatible. Wonder if the CS changes length?PeT said:More than the cruiser, I'm impressed with James' take on the long-travel soft-tail. Below is a photo that Clockwork put up, and I've seen several versions of it in person. Note the Ti plate joining the bottom bracket to the seat-stays. It has bolts that allow sliding adjustment of the chainstay length so you can dial in chain tension for a SS or Rohloff. I remember James saying the bike has 4 inches of "pivotless" travel. Furthermore, the frame can be disassembled into two pieces and put in a travel case -- certainly as easy to use as S&S couplers, perhaps more easily (and no special tool required).