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I am planning on riding BDM form Clayton tomorrow at 5:00 pm, that's Thursday. Anyone interested is welcome.
The ride is about 10-11 miles long with lots of hills and lasts 1 1/2 hour. Caution: I am not a fast climber.
 

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Boy I would love too, but that's too early for me. I need an East Bay job!

Enjoy your ride VTT!
 

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I'd love to too, but...

VTT - I'd love to come along too, especially b/c your riding style sounds a little like mine (slow climber), but I'm on kid duty this afternoon/evening. :madman:

Perhaps we could set up another ride at the mines later? With a little more notice I can weasel my way out of babysitting a little easier. I also live in the eastbay, so 5:00 rides usually aren't out of the question for me.

Have a great ride!

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VTT - I'd love to come along too, especially b/c your riding style sounds a little like mine (slow climber), but I'm on kid duty this afternoon/evening. :madman:

Perhaps we could set up another ride at the mines later? With a little more notice I can weasel my way out of babysitting a little easier. I also live in the eastbay, so 5:00 rides usually aren't out of the question for me.

Have a great ride!

DK
It looks like it will be myself and the rattlers ! They love to lie on the trails when the weather gets warm like today.

I live about 10 minutes away from both the Clayton entrance to BDM and the Mountaire entrance to Mt Diablo, so I am able to ride anytime in the late afternoon. I usually ride weekly with EBrider in the afternoon in BDM but he had family obligations and couldn't make it tonight. You are welcome to join us anytime for what we call the short loop (10-11 miles). I will post later for next week's ride.
 

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bdm ride

what trails do you ride at bdm, they have some decent single track but my buddies and i got busted last time. we went in the middle of the week right b4 they closed and a ranger (kind of a dick) still warned us?
 

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what trails do you ride at bdm, they have some decent single track but my buddies and i got busted last time. we went in the middle of the week right b4 they closed and a ranger (kind of a dick) still warned us?
What closed? The park is open until 10pm. I doubt a park ranger reprimanded you at 9:50pm. Considering that if the ranger had a park cop nearby, they could have given you a ticket, you were lucky. Some of the rangers and park supervisors are anti-bike.

BTW, we don't talk about poaching trails here.
 

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actually, the park closes at 8 pm (unless it has changed since last week which i doubt?) and the ranger warned us for riding on trails closed to bikes. i was wondering what trails you guys rode because if you stay on the legal bike trails bdm blows (imo). sorry im not down with the cool lingo, but what is trail poaching?
 

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It turns out you are right - BDM is one of the few EBRPD that closes at Dusk. Most EBRPs open at 5am and close at 10pm but the hours for BDM are 8am to Dusk.

And yes, riding the legal trails at BDM suck for anything but a workout. Try riding at Mt. Diablo or one of the other local parks for either longer hours, less stress from the rangers about where to/not to ride or more legal fun trails.

Poaching, like when hunting illegally, is when you ride illegal trails.
 

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why rangers have such a prob?

hey dan'ger,
im with you, id rather not ride the illeagl trails, but its hard not too, considering that bdm is very close to my house (about a 15 min drive). good for a quick session. anyway, i cant understand why the rangers had such a prob. we were there in the middle of the week, with no one around, i mean we didnt even see another person on the non-bike trails. I can understand if it were a weekend and the trails were crowded and we were causing harm or endangering people, but we never even passed a single sole? why do you think bikes are not allowed on the trails? its not that nice of a park anyway (scenery-wise), especially in the summer. i guess the rangers would rather have the hikers ruin the trails by all the graffiti people carve in the rocks rather than allow harmless bikes on them? but i suppose the bottom line is that they are clearly marked no-bikes are we should respect that. however i am still confused is to why the rangers or anyone have such a prob considering the circumstances?

p.s. im down for some local rides, i have a few buddies that would be willing to come too. post a few days in advance...thanks
 

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hey dan'ger,
im with you, id rather not ride the illeagl trails, but its hard not too, considering that bdm is very close to my house (about a 15 min drive). good for a quick session. anyway, i cant understand why the rangers had such a prob. we were there in the middle of the week, with no one around, i mean we didnt even see another person on the non-bike trails. I can understand if it were a weekend and the trails were crowded and we were causing harm or endangering people, but we never even passed a single sole? why do you think bikes are not allowed on the trails? its not that nice of a park anyway (scenery-wise), especially in the summer. i guess the rangers would rather have the hikers ruin the trails by all the graffiti people carve in the rocks rather than allow harmless bikes on them? but i suppose the bottom line is that they are clearly marked no-bikes are we should respect that. however i am still confused is to why the rangers or anyone have such a prob considering the circumstances?

p.s. im down for some local rides, i have a few buddies that would be willing to come too. post a few days in advance...thanks
In some local parks, the rangers agree with your statement - if you're not hurting yourself, not causing problems for other users or the environment, etc., they tend to turn a blind eye if they aren't overburdened anyway. These proactive park supervisors recognize mountain bikers as a significant user group and are willing to work with us on making the parks more mountain bike friendly. Of course, it goes hand in hand with being friendly and considerate to other trail users.

In certain parks, Las Trampas and Morgan Territory to name a couple, the supervisors wish that mountain bikers would just go away. They are unwilling to look into the idea of legalizing trails and try to punish any rider in their park as much as possible. It may be that BDM has a supervisor that feels the same way.

My group rides Briones and other local parks on Tuesday nights. The schedule for July is here: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=200930. We welcome newcomers.

Also, we're riding Soquel Demonstration Forest tomorrow morning and have a couple of spaces in our carpool from Pleasant Hill open for $8/head.
 

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actually, the park closes at 8 pm (unless it has changed since last week which i doubt?) and the ranger warned us for riding on trails closed to bikes. i was wondering what trails you guys rode because if you stay on the legal bike trails bdm blows (imo). sorry im not down with the cool lingo, but what is trail poaching?
I leave from the Clayton trailhead which, after an 1/2 hour climb, leads you to the BDM entrance. I usually ride the "short loop" by taking a paved road to the right for a few hundred yards and then the BDM trail, down Nortonville and up Coal Canyon trail back to the road and down to Clayton the way I came in. It's about 10 miles with 2000 feet of climbing.
There is a legal (and very short) ST called Corcoran Mine trail, off the Ridge trail.
I try to ride this loop weekly and leave at 5:00 pm. I am a slow climber and ride this loop for punishment :) . You are welcome to join us (EBrider rides this loop with me and he is a strong climber)
 

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damn, i have been reading about sdf and want to ride there bad. turns out tomorrow i am busy. its good to know there are some local guys around. one of my riding buddies lives in pleasant hill and i am out that way quite a bit. try and post trips like that earlier (if you didnt already) especially this summer. let me know how you like that place, i hear its pretty badass?
 

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2 thoughts on posting stuff about illegal trails on MTBR

-If it's illegal and rideable, think of it as secret. advertising to the entire world where the good singletrack is and having a trail that might see 1 or 2 riders a day start to get 20 a day is may have an impact on the trail erosion.
-trail nazi park rangers have computers too. they also like to know where/when people are poaching so they can stop them.

Confessing any illegal activities on the internet is never that great of an idea no matter how harmless or benign it may seem.
 
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