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Just rode the loop last night for the first time. Awesome ride except for the fact that they must have had a major wind storm come through the area recently. Starting about half way down the Little Basin Creek portion of the trail and continuing quite a ways down the Big Basin Creek portion of the trail I probably dismounted 50 times for downed trees across the trail. Needless to say before riding this trail I would check with the forest service in Stanley to see if it has been cleared. Other than all of the downed timber it was a great ride. We parked at the intersection of the two forest roads on the southeast side of the loop and rode counter clockwise. The mosquitoes were pretty bad for the first mile and the last mile but not too bad for the rest of the ride. One last comment, there was no possible way to stay dry with the creek crossings! The water is still nearly knee deep at all four of the major ones and there was probably four more smaller ones that were way too deep to ride across. The meadows up top were simply spectacular.
 

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Thanks for the timely info. I was planning on doing the exact same ride on Saturday. However, I'm not sure I really want to drive 130 miles to ride a trail with 50+ tree scrambles. What trails are clear up there other than Fisher/Williams? It's not worth a 5 hour round trip drive to Stanley to ride just Fisher/Williams.
 

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Trail conditions in Stanley Basin

Don't have anymore info on other trails in Stanley area. When I rode Big/Little Basin Creek I was traveling through the area on my way back to McCall from Jackson Hole. Haven't had a chance to ride anything else in that area yet this summer. The night before I rode up and back about 6 miles on the Third Fork trail in the South Hills south of Twin Falls. Another first time ride for me and other than the blazing heat for the first part of the ride this was also a stellar ride. However, I think when I do it again it will be in the spring or fall when it is cooler.
 

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Just got off the phone with the Stanley Ranger Station. Sounds like Fisher Creek and Elk Meadows are the ONLY cleared and rideable trails in the Stanley area. Big and Little Basin Creek, Big and Little Casino Creek, Boundary Creek, the east side of the Redfish trail (starting/ending at the Sockeye campground), and Warm Springs Canyon all still have significant downed timber and other trail damage. She mentioned that one could "ride to the southern end of Redfish Lake" but it's not rideable as a loop. (Having never ridden Redfish, I wasn't quite following what trail she said was rideable, but she was pretty adamant that the trail starting at the Sockeye campground on the east side of the lake was very damaged and not rideable.) While not a biking area, she did also mention that Sawtooth Lake (el. 8400) has 3 - 4 feet of snow remaining. She highly recommended that people call either the Stanley Ranger Station (208) 774-3000, the SNRA HQ (208) 727-5000, or the Redfish Visitors Center to obtain trail info before riding or hiking.

EDIT: I check the BWBT Trail Blog on Sun Valley Online and found this recent post about the Stanley area trails from last weekend:

Greg McRoberts supplied the following report about some routes in the Sawtooth Valley.
Here's a quick update on a few Stanley rides (from this past weekend):

1. Elk Mountain Loop - mosquitoes and more mosquitoes! Riding well from the start of the singletrack off the top to the meadow, then there are about 6 good mud/gravel bogs until you start the traverse around the mountain. Please encourage people to not ride through the meadow and create new trails…it's starting to see some wear. The rest of the ride is normal…aside from the swarms of mosquitoes.

2. Potato Mountain Loop (Little Basin Creek Loop): I heard from Riverwear that there are tons of trees down - the trail is completely impassable. Apparently someone from Hailey (Marc Driver and Reed Melton? - CL) has been cutting it out for the past many, many years, and just hasn't gotten to it yet…go figure, maybe a little busy in the Big Wood River Valley, still?!

3. RedFish Lake Loop - Riding very well. Trail is clear of debris aside from a few trees here and there (maybe 5-6 total) in the whole loop. On the Grand Mogul side of the Inlet Campground, the USFS is reconstructing some bridges and side-hills, so a few dismounts are mandatory. Not many mosquitoes and amazing views!


Sounds like maybe the Ranger Station was wrong about the condition of the Redfish Lake loop, but again, I've never ridden it, so I don't know what actually constitutes the "Redfish Lake Loop." My Sawtooth/White Clouds map (AdventureMaps series) describes a "Redfish Lake/Decker Flats" loop ride that includes FS Road 210 and trails 400 and 045, but I don't know whether that ride is what the above author is referencing.
 

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unfortunately

i've found that rangers typically don't know much about the conditions of trails. or at least updated trail conditions.

guess that's not part of their job description? still, i'd like that job. :p

best place for info on riding is to call a LBS (maybe go in and by a water bottle or some lube for the info). there will be at least one person there that knows trail conditions.
 

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Redfish lake loop is fun

Earthpig said:
Just got off the phone with the Stanley Ranger Station. Sounds like Fisher Creek and Elk Meadows are the ONLY cleared and rideable trails in the Stanley area. Big and Little Basin Creek, Big and Little Casino Creek, Boundary Creek, the east side of the Redfish trail (starting/ending at the Sockeye campground), and Warm Springs Canyon all still have significant downed timber and other trail damage. She mentioned that one could "ride to the southern end of Redfish Lake" but it's not rideable as a loop. (Having never ridden Redfish, I wasn't quite following what trail she said was rideable, but she was pretty adamant that the trail starting at the Sockeye campground on the east side of the lake was very damaged and not rideable.) While not a biking area, she did also mention that Sawtooth Lake (el. 8400) has 3 - 4 feet of snow remaining. She highly recommended that people call either the Stanley Ranger Station (208) 774-3000, the SNRA HQ (208) 727-5000, or the Redfish Visitors Center to obtain trail info before riding or hiking.

EDIT: I check the BWBT Trail Blog on Sun Valley Online and found this recent post about the Stanley area trails from last weekend:

Greg McRoberts supplied the following report about some routes in the Sawtooth Valley.
Here's a quick update on a few Stanley rides (from this past weekend):

1. Elk Mountain Loop - mosquitoes and more mosquitoes! Riding well from the start of the singletrack off the top to the meadow, then there are about 6 good mud/gravel bogs until you start the traverse around the mountain. Please encourage people to not ride through the meadow and create new trails…it's starting to see some wear. The rest of the ride is normal…aside from the swarms of mosquitoes.

2. Potato Mountain Loop (Little Basin Creek Loop): I heard from Riverwear that there are tons of trees down - the trail is completely impassable. Apparently someone from Hailey (Marc Driver and Reed Melton? - CL) has been cutting it out for the past many, many years, and just hasn't gotten to it yet…go figure, maybe a little busy in the Big Wood River Valley, still?!

3. RedFish Lake Loop - Riding very well. Trail is clear of debris aside from a few trees here and there (maybe 5-6 total) in the whole loop. On the Grand Mogul side of the Inlet Campground, the USFS is reconstructing some bridges and side-hills, so a few dismounts are mandatory. Not many mosquitoes and amazing views!


Sounds like maybe the Ranger Station was wrong about the condition of the Redfish Lake loop, but again, I've never ridden it, so I don't know what actually constitutes the "Redfish Lake Loop." My Sawtooth/White Clouds map (AdventureMaps series) describes a "Redfish Lake/Decker Flats" loop ride that includes FS Road 210 and trails 400 and 045, but I don't know whether that ride is what the above author is referencing.
I have done it and had a blast. Start from the campground and go around the lake counter clockwise. Basically the loop is the trail right around the lake. Maybe I will see you up there if our other loop does not work out. You could join us on saturday for our kirkham and warmsprings loop starting from bonneville campground.

Chris
 

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I have done it and had a blast. Start from the campground and go around the lake counter clockwise. Basically the loop is the trail right around the lake. Maybe I will see you up there if our other loop does not work out. You could join us on saturday for our kirkham and warmsprings loop starting from bonneville campground.

Chris
Start from which campground? The map I have describes and shows a loop ride to the east of the lake, but not a loop ride around the lake. I see on the map that there is a trail that you can take around the lake (I've hiked the trail on the west side of the lake to the bench lakes) but this map does not describe that as a bike ride. Hmmm.
 

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South side campground

Earthpig said:
Start from which campground? The map I have describes and shows a loop ride to the east of the lake, but not a loop ride around the lake. I see on the map that there is a trail that you can take around the lake (I've hiked the trail on the west side of the lake to the bench lakes) but this map does not describe that as a bike ride. Hmmm.
I can't remeber the name, I will look at my map tonight and give you some better info...

Chris
 

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Dry hump

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Don't you mean Redfisch Lake?
Actually, the Northwest Planning Council would prefer it if we changed the name of Redfish Lake to better represent what it has become. I purpose Dry Hump Lake to better illustrate the nature of the returning fish. After a long hot swim the redfish now enjoys a nice dry hump in the hand of some nice *** (Phish And GAME) person, and then the milt spends its early life in a tank.

I think your GFs would really enjoy going to Dry Hump Lake.

Sorry, I couldn't work spackle into this one.
 
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