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Guys,

I have the Avid Juicy 7's on my 2006 Enduro Expert. Nice brakes. But I'm a bigger guy at 6'3" 240lbs. I get serious arm pump when going down long trails, best example is Dville. Can't move my forearms after. I know the brakes are dialed in. Just not that great for bigger guys.

I'm tired of it. I want some brakes that I barey touch and they stop. I want to not have arm pump. Something that will send me over the bars.

I read the reviews, and here's the big players:

Magura - $$$$
Hope M4 - Mixed review
New Formulas - ???

Help!
 

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bullit71 said:
Guys,

I have the Avid Juicy 7's on my 2006 Enduro Expert. Nice brakes. But I'm a bigger guy at 6'3" 240lbs. I get serious arm pump when going down long trails, best example is Dville. Can't move my forearms after. I know the brakes are dialed in. Just not that great for bigger guys.

I'm tired of it. I want some brakes that I barey touch and they stop. I want to not have arm pump. Something that will send me over the bars.

I read the reviews, and here's the big players:

Magura - $$$$
Hope M4 - Mixed review
New Formulas - ???

Do you have 8" rotors ?
 

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I'm 235 w/o gear and I've been running Saint breaks w/ great results. My bread pads are almost gone too and I still have great stopping power. And no, you don't need Saint hubs to run the breaks, a lot of people have that mis conseption. But you do need Saint hubs to run Saint rotors, but you don't need the Saint rotors to run the breaks either.
EDIT: I said bread pads when I ment break pads, I'm sure you understood though.
 

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Second the Saints

6'1" @ 220 without gear. Saints have great stopping power and the modulation is unreal. I also run them with 8" rotors and Goodridge lines. Can't go wrong with the Saints. I have Hayes HFX 9 Carbon on my Dirtbag and I will be swithing to Saints as the Hayes just don't have the stopping power and modulation of the Saints IMO.
 

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If these brakes came on an Enduro I bet they have 6 inch rotors.

If he has 6 inch rotors obviously he needs to get 8 inch ones and not new brakes. I have 7 inch rotors on my Juicys and they are pretty strong.
 

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I am 290 lbs on a large VP FREE with 2.6 tires I have the Juice 7 with an 8 inch rotor I would get lever fade after long down hills so I went to BRAKE TIME forum there I heard about Galfer breaks so I called them and they told me to try DOT 5.1 break fluid first then get there rotor if that did not work, so I went one further and bought the 5.1 fluid,the rotor and there break pads. much better breaking .try giving Galfer a call and tell them your problem could not hurt :thumbsup:
 

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Hmmmm

I'm 6-3 230 and I ride the Gustavs. They are uber powerful and they are rock solid. I've rode 15+ days at Whistler last year and almost ten this year with no problems in the brake dept.
They run silent, incredible feel, no fade, and will stop a horse. Maybe a bit expensive but worth it. Check out Greenfish. I think they had them on sale for like 170 a side. Great deal. You won't regret it.
 

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bullit71 said:
Guys,

I have the Avid Juicy 7's on my 2006 Enduro Expert. Nice brakes. But I'm a bigger guy at 6'3" 240lbs. I get serious arm pump when going down long trails, best example is Dville. Can't move my forearms after. I know the brakes are dialed in. Just not that great for bigger guys.

I'm tired of it. I want some brakes that I barey touch and they stop. I want to not have arm pump. Something that will send me over the bars.
Help!
Again, try 8" rotors front and rear and a more aggressive brake pad. Hell, throw on some stainless steel brake lines.
 

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Agree on this one.

M1_joel said:
Again, try 8" rotors front and rear and a more aggressive brake pad. Hell, throw on some stainless steel brake lines.
I use Hayes Mags, but some Goodridge brake hoses and EBC red pads will make a very noticeable difference without having to change the Avids. And of course, 8" rotors are a must for ultimate power if you don't already have them.
 

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People slag 'em, but I'm on Hayes Mags with 8" rotors. I'm 6'4" and about 200. They work just great. They have sent my OTB more than a few times - one finger braking is very easy, even down some seriously steep stuff.
 

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Techfreak said:
People slag 'em, but I'm on Hayes Mags with 8" rotors. I'm 6'4" and about 200. They work just great. They have sent my OTB more than a few times - one finger braking is very easy, even down some seriously steep stuff.
i just moved to Gustavs but my hayes were great. i had stock lines but galfer rotors and pads.

Actually, my brother robbed me of my Hayes Mags that were money and i got stuck with a spongy pair of hayes. So I bought Gustavs and am happy again.
 

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Thanks for the replies.

Yeah the Enduro comes with 8" up front and 7" in the back, stock.

I'll have to price compare to see if getting new rotors, lines etc will be more costly then just getting Saint brakes.

I'll give them a call asap and let ya know.

Anyone have any pricing off the top of their heads?
 

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Just try a aggressive compound brake pad. that usually makes a big difference. I dont know the avid product line so i cant suggest a part number or anything.

bullit71 said:
Thanks for the replies.

Yeah the Enduro comes with 8" up front and 7" in the back, stock.

I'll have to price compare to see if getting new rotors, lines etc will be more costly then just getting Saint brakes.

I'll give them a call asap and let ya know.

Anyone have any pricing off the top of their heads?
 

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I use Hayes Mags, but some Goodridge brake hoses and EBC red pads will make a very noticeable difference without having to change the Avids. And of course, 8" rotors are a must for ultimate power if you don't already have them.
Do the Red pads make a big difference in stopping power over Hayes-sintered or Koolstop pads in the Mags? I've been thinking about getting a set of reds...
 

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They did for me.

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Do the Red pads make a big difference in stopping power over Hayes-sintered or Koolstop pads in the Mags? I've been thinking about getting a set of reds...
EBC says these are dry weather pads, and I agree. They work fine for the occasional water crossing and such, but if you're a mudder, use other pads. They don't last as long as Hayes regular pads but have a reasonable life span. Using Goodridge brake hoses and red pads allowed me to stay with a 6" rotor in the rear on my bikes.
 

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I've got Mono M4's and they rock. Tons of power, fantastic modulation, no none zip zilch zero fade. Stock config except for Motul brake fluid. Oh, and dead reliable. Three sets of Hopes on various bikes over the past few years, no problems.
 

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I think what I am going to do is order the Galfer brake pads first to see if that makes a difference. Next order the rotors. Then brake lines. Go from there.

I called Galfer directly, wasn't impressed. Go-Ride.com has the brake pads for around $15.
 

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hmmm. strange...
i'm 215, and run Juicy 7s with 7/7 rotors without any arm pump issues..
i think if i went 8/7 it would almost be too much power

perhaps the brakes aren't quite set up properly? need a bleed?
 
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