Bar ends, Riser bars
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On my bike i have both bar ends,and risers.i like them both.
You can place your hands anywhere.
You can place your hands anywhere.
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Check out the Jeff Jones H-Bar. A pretty good idea who's time has come :thumbsup:mcdelroy said:
A bit spendy, but Jeff says Titec has licensed the design and will make an aluminum version.
That H-Bar is neat. It looks very ergonomic for endurance type riding. With many positions that don't allow braking and / or shifting it's not the thing for technical sections. At 200g+ more than my current bar, I think I'll wait for a carbon version ...
I used to have a rounded bar made by Scott that was sort of a bent-circular thing which allowed for flat bar / bar end / timetrial hand positions. Very cool, but heavy to swing around turns, and the timetrial position wasn't useful for MTB.
I've thought about putting drops from my road bike on my MTB for flat, fast courses. Kinda cyclocross idea ... Crazy?
I used to have a rounded bar made by Scott that was sort of a bent-circular thing which allowed for flat bar / bar end / timetrial hand positions. Very cool, but heavy to swing around turns, and the timetrial position wasn't useful for MTB.
I've thought about putting drops from my road bike on my MTB for flat, fast courses. Kinda cyclocross idea ... Crazy?
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Same here.mcdelroy said:
I found it also usefully :thumbsup: .
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. Important is the function!mfg wo-ufp1
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I totally agree. I recently switched from flats to low risers, and there are definite benefits to this change that I resisted too long under the assumption that it was all just a fashion thing. But......womble said:
After about 10 rides, I realized that I really missed the bar ends, and tried a set of the cushy Cane Creek units. That combo is working great for me!
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that last pic
I do miss the barends, i have no place to put my hands when i'm in a relaxed position, I DO NOT miss them hookin' on trees though.
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see on that last pic you posted, i wouldn't trust myself to ride that trail.wo-ufp1 said:Same here.
I found it also usefully :thumbsup: .
Style or not style, bull*'#[email protected]€
mfg wo-ufp1
I do miss the barends, i have no place to put my hands when i'm in a relaxed position, I DO NOT miss them hookin' on trees though.
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Love it
I use Ritchey WCS bar ends cut down to 9cm long. I also had to reinforce the carbon bars by gluing a 3cm aluminium pipe inside the end of the bar using epoxy. It worked great and have never had a problem in thousands of km. I also use Hope end plugs.
Having the bar ends short has the advantage of not getting caught in every tree you go by but is just long enough to let you change hand position and also pull your boby forward on steep climbs.
It is about time the manufactures started reinforcing the ends of carbon bars.
I will never give them up even if they dont look "cool"
Moo
I use Ritchey WCS bar ends cut down to 9cm long. I also had to reinforce the carbon bars by gluing a 3cm aluminium pipe inside the end of the bar using epoxy. It worked great and have never had a problem in thousands of km. I also use Hope end plugs.
Having the bar ends short has the advantage of not getting caught in every tree you go by but is just long enough to let you change hand position and also pull your boby forward on steep climbs.
It is about time the manufactures started reinforcing the ends of carbon bars.
I will never give them up even if they dont look "cool"
Moo
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Do you know how I know you are gay?
Bar ends on your riser bars
Seriously, I think that there are three main reasons for the decline in bar ends:
1. Longer top tubes: the change to longer top tubes in the late 90's allowed for a better stretched out position without the need for bar ends. In the mid 90's (the height of bar end populariity), the trend was to use too small of a bike: bar ends ,especially long bar ends (remember big L-bend Onza's?), were needed to stretch out from a cramped position on the grips. These bar ends were on top of super long stems (130-140mm).
3. Return to reasonable seat to bar drop: In the mid 90's, the small bike trend also created and excessive seat to bar drop: having your bar 3-4" below your seat, creating hand numbness and the need for additional hand positions. Pull out back issues of MBA and Bike if you don't remember this trend.
2. Wider bars w/ sweep (with or without rise): they are generally more comfortable and more ergonomic than the old super narrow bars popular in the mid 90's. They open up the chest for deep breathing on climbs without bar ends. When you're comfortable in one spot, you don't need to move your hands.
Sure there will always be some that want bar ends for additional hand positions, but bar ends are almost all shorties these days. A lot of my friends and myself just grip the bar as if there was a bar end there, you get plenty of control for climbing, esp with a thik ended grip like Oury. Here's to you Mr. Bar Ends on Riser Bar Guy. :thumbsup:
Bar ends on your riser bars
Seriously, I think that there are three main reasons for the decline in bar ends:
1. Longer top tubes: the change to longer top tubes in the late 90's allowed for a better stretched out position without the need for bar ends. In the mid 90's (the height of bar end populariity), the trend was to use too small of a bike: bar ends ,especially long bar ends (remember big L-bend Onza's?), were needed to stretch out from a cramped position on the grips. These bar ends were on top of super long stems (130-140mm).
3. Return to reasonable seat to bar drop: In the mid 90's, the small bike trend also created and excessive seat to bar drop: having your bar 3-4" below your seat, creating hand numbness and the need for additional hand positions. Pull out back issues of MBA and Bike if you don't remember this trend.
2. Wider bars w/ sweep (with or without rise): they are generally more comfortable and more ergonomic than the old super narrow bars popular in the mid 90's. They open up the chest for deep breathing on climbs without bar ends. When you're comfortable in one spot, you don't need to move your hands.
Sure there will always be some that want bar ends for additional hand positions, but bar ends are almost all shorties these days. A lot of my friends and myself just grip the bar as if there was a bar end there, you get plenty of control for climbing, esp with a thik ended grip like Oury. Here's to you Mr. Bar Ends on Riser Bar Guy. :thumbsup:
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Bar ends catch on scrub, trees, rocks, well everything on single track.... they are dangerous unless you ride firetrails/ road/ double track.
Admitidly riding style may determine if you catch your bar ends..i often have my shoulders/ backpack clip obstacles as i carve up single track... so barends are a death sentence for me
woot 100 posts and talking about single track !
Admitidly riding style may determine if you catch your bar ends..i often have my shoulders/ backpack clip obstacles as i carve up single track... so barends are a death sentence for me
woot 100 posts and talking about single track
!Yeah, the straight ones do, thats why I use the longer L bend type. They actually deflect trees and bushes and whatnot. The space between the ends of the two is pretty narrow and I've never had a tree get in there. I have had many trees safely deflect off them, which would have probably turned my bars and smashed my hands had I not had the barends.ilostmypassword said:Bar ends catch on scrub, trees, rocks, well everything on single track.... they are dangerous unless you ride firetrails/ road/ double track.
Admitidly riding style may determine if you catch your bar ends..i often have my shoulders/ backpack clip obstacles as i carve up single track... so barends are a death sentence for me
woot 100 posts and talking about single track
Flatbar w Ends
I"ve been switching back and forth between a setup of a 115mm stem, narrow (21") straight flatbar with barends and a setup of a 90mm stem, 24" swept carbon riser (that MonkeyLite that was on sale everywhere on the internet a couple of years ago) without barends.
I decided that I like the closer-to-body feel of the 90mm stem in singletrack, but want to be more stretched out for climbing. I also like the sweep on my riser, but the multiple hand positions allowed with barends. So, I just bought a 23" flatbar with sweep that I'll put my barends on and try with the short stem this year.
I"ve been switching back and forth between a setup of a 115mm stem, narrow (21") straight flatbar with barends and a setup of a 90mm stem, 24" swept carbon riser (that MonkeyLite that was on sale everywhere on the internet a couple of years ago) without barends.
I decided that I like the closer-to-body feel of the 90mm stem in singletrack, but want to be more stretched out for climbing. I also like the sweep on my riser, but the multiple hand positions allowed with barends. So, I just bought a 23" flatbar with sweep that I'll put my barends on and try with the short stem this year.
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