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Baja Designs Stryker and Stryker Pro review - beamshots added in later post

Now that I've had my Stryker and Stryker Pro for a couple weeks, I thought I'd post up a review...

My first impression upon receiving and unboxing the lights is that Baja Designs' packing and attention to detail is superb. Each component is seperately bagged or boxed and prepped for a safe trip to the customer. Well written (understandable) instructions are included in the box, too!

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5717235800/" title="Stryker and Stryker Pro boxes by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/5717235800_e7e46d2df0_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Stryker and Stryker Pro boxes"></a>

Baja Designs doesn't cheap out on the accessories either. An extension cord, a helmet mount, and a bar mount are included in the kit.

Here are the contents of the Stryker Pro box
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5716671017/" title="Stryker Pro and accessories by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/5716671017_4309fe8ea2_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Stryker Pro and accessories"></a>

And, here are the contents of the Stryker box
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5717236538/" title="Stryker and accessories by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/5717236538_c0f62d081c_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Stryker and accessories"></a>

My second impression (after unboxing)...wow, these lights are stout! They look like they'll handle anything I can throw at them. The Stryker is significantly bigger than the Stryker Pro, as you can see in this pic...
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5717237206/" title="Stryker, Stryker Pro by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2220/5717237206_d916c23a41_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Stryker, Stryker Pro"></a>

The Stryker has a giant reflector (should be good for throw) and the Stryker Pro has a smaller optic.

The size and stoutness (especially for the Stryker) are apparent when the head units are weighed.

Stryker 173g
Handlebar Mount 33g

Stryker Pro 103g
Helmet Mount/Strap 23g
Handlebar Mount 14g

MagicShine 900 105g
O ring 2g

Some testing with my lightmeter shows some interesting comparative results.

~1m lux measurements
Stryker 7580
Stryker Pro 3830
MS900 4430

Ceiling bounce tests (Hi/Med/Lo)
Stryker 152/101/84
Stryker Pro 127/96/81
MS900 125/76/na

So, the Styker is putting out some serious light. The Stryker Pro is comparable to my MagicShine 900.

Speaking of which, let's take a look at them side by side...
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5717239984/" title="Stryker Pro, MS900, Stryker by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2769/5717239984_59794577b3_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Stryker Pro, MS900, Stryker"></a>

The battery pack and connectors for the Baja Designs lights are fully waterproof and have a nice rubberized mounting system (which is removable if you wanna throw it in your pack). The battery housing is a large step up from the battery packs that came with my MagicShine units.

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5717239038/" title="Waterproof battery pack by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3657/5717239038_3e1d1fb828_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Waterproof battery pack"></a>

It's quite apparent the pack is made in China. I'd like to see what's inside. That may come later...
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5717239372/" title="Waterproof battery pack by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3330/5717239372_a144c0b1c7_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Waterproof battery pack"></a>

I couldn't resist testing the waterproofness...
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5717241538/" title="Stryker Pro underwater by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/5717241538_85d3d8ff7a_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Stryker Pro underwater"></a>

There is no way I'd do that with my MagicShines!

So, more important than all these pictures and measurements...how well do they work? A Stryker on the bars and a Stryker Pro on the helmet are a great combination. Lots of light. No annoying SOS modes to cycle through. Yay! I like the battery level indication system:

Glow green from 3 – 1.5 hours
Flash green for 1.5 hours to 30 minutes
Glow yellow from 30 minutes – 10 minutes
Flash red at less than 10 minutes remaining

The Stryker is actually pretty amazing. Boatloads of light in a great flood pattern. Baja Designs also includes a spot reflector which I haven't tried yet.

The Stryker Pro puts out a level of light comparable to my MagicShines, but seems to have a warmer tint (which I prefer). I was hoping it would put out as much as the Stryker, but I guess I can't expect that from a small optic (compared to the large reflector in the Stryker).

There aren't many negatives I have to mention with these lights, but the Stryker handlebar mount is one. It is a zip tie affair. Although it is sturdy, it is also seriously inconvenient. Baja Designs is in the process of testing a better mount, but in the meantime, I'll probably see if I can rig up a Marwi mount. The other negative to mention is weight. The Stryker is heavy. Probably insignificant, but it bugs my weight-weenie past.

The batteries are also heavy, but probably worth it due to the waterproofness.
Baja Designs 307g
MS900 212g

My overall impression is that these lights are really well designed. I hope Baja Designs comes out with new head units as new LED technology hits the market. And, I really hope they address the Stryker handlebar mount ASAP.

Oh yeah, one key point I almost forgot to mention...customer service! Dealing with Shannon was great. Fast, friendly communication. One of the chargers that came with my shipment actually squealed and became warm to the touch. I let Shannon know and he shipped a replacement out the next day. Now, that is the kind of service that is worth paying for.

And, here is a pic of the generic charger...
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5716673741/" title="Baja Designs Charger by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2510/5716673741_6d8ca78e91_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Baja Designs Charger"></a>

I plan to follow up this post with some comparative beamshots (Stryker, Stryker Pro, Gemini Titan, and MS900). Stay tuned....
 

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J_Hopper said:
Did you mention the BD battery will power the MS900 lighthead?
No, I have no idea about that. They are certainly different voltages, but the MS driver could possibly be designed to handle that.
 

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Great review, Baker! I've been very please with my Strykr and agree with your assessment. On the O-Ring mount, it is an improvement as far as portability, but is definitely not as rock solid as the zip-tie mount included as standard. I have the zip mounted permanently on my cross bike (which gets most of my night riding miles) and use the O-Ring mount for the road bike. Haven't tried either on my MTB yet.

Interesting on the light output. I also have the BD SSC P7 flashlight and it apparently is the smaller twin of the Strykr Pro - very similar output, +2.5 hours run time. All the BD units are built like tanks - I'm look forward to years of use.
 

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Beamshots

Baja Designs Stryker
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5725217410/" title="DSCF5674 by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5178/5725217410_701370928b_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="DSCF5674"></a>

Baja Designs Stryker Pro
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5725216912/" title="DSCF5673 by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3492/5725216912_bbaefa8d16_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="DSCF5673"></a>

Gemini Titan
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5724659235/" title="DSCF5672 by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5724659235_bb0cc2f147_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="DSCF5672"></a>

MagicShine 900
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5725215996/" title="DSCF5671 by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5082/5725215996_ebca180572_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="DSCF5671"></a>
 

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baker said:
No, I have no idea about that. They are certainly different voltages, but the MS driver could possibly be designed to handle that.
It doesn't need to be designed to handle it - it already works. Plug in your MS900 lighthead to your BD battery, and it will work. The connection probably isn't tight enough to be waterproof, but it does work.
 

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BajaDesignsShannon said:
I look forward to hearing your ride report and seeing the battery dissection if you decide to do that.
I have a 24 hour race in 3 weeks where I plan to really put the lights to use. After that, I'll be brave enough to open up a battery pack and check out the innards. I don't want to screw up the battery before the race! :)
 

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baker said:
I have a 24 hour race in 3 weeks where I plan to really put the lights to use. After that, I'll be brave enough to open up a battery pack and check out the innards. I don't want to screw up the battery before the race! :)
That sounds like a good plan Baker, if you somehow get the battery(ies) apart and can't quite put them back together again just let me know and I'll send you a couple of new replacements and fix the dissected batteries here at the shop - no problem.

Are you doing the 24hrs of ERock? I believe our outside rep in that neck of the woods is going to be at that race, not sure if he is going to set up a booth or anything but he can definitely help out with any lighting logistical challenges you may have. Let me know and I will get his contact info for you.

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That sounds like a good plan Baker, if you somehow get the battery(ies) apart and can't quite put them back together again just let me know and I'll send you a couple of new replacements and fix the dissected batteries here at the shop - no problem.

Are you doing the 24hrs of ERock? I believe our outside rep in that neck of the woods is going to be at that race, not sure if he is going to set up a booth or anything but he can definitely help out with any lighting logistical challenges you may have. Let me know and I will get his contact info for you.

Shannon
Yeah, I'm doing ERock on a 7 or 8 person team (Monumentally Afflicted). Which means it should be a whole lot more fun and hanging out than doing a solo! I've volunteered for extra night laps, so hopefully I can get a bunch of cooler temp laps in a row at night.

Thanks!
 

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Recently I was able to go to a Stryker Light Demo and was thoroughly impressed. We did a section of a trail I have never ridden and I felt totally confident descending. The Stryker Pro may seem small, but boy does it put out a lot of light. Shannon is also a great guy to ride with and really passionate about lights and standing by his product.
 

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Great review! I have never seen a bike light that can work under water like that. Pretty cool!
Yep, the Strykr is good to 33ft underwater and the Strykr Pro is good to 66ft, and very waterproof and corrosion resistant to handle marine/military environments. At 33 or 66ft they don't leak, nor do the batteries or plugs, the pressure just becomes enough to press the on/off button and the lights will turn off - which could be inconvenient. I used a Strykr Pro snorkeling on the reef in front of our rental in Maui for our honeymoon a while back, the same light I had used the prior week on the Tuesday night ride, I thought that was pretty cool. (there's a couple of videos of that on our Baja Designs Bicycle Lights Facebook page - fun!)

We actually sell a hand mount for the light head and an arm pouch for the battery that can be used for free diving/snorkeling or shallow diving, if you guys have any questions about that sort of gear let me know.

Shannon
 

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Baja Designs Battery Dissection

Okay, I manned up and dissected the Baja Designs battery. I can see why Shannon was anxious for me to do so. This battery is something to be proud of. The external casing is so thick that I had to bring out a Dremel to get the thing apart. And even then, it wasn't easy.

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5735763716/" title="BD dissection by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5735763716_75c3e5b6dd_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="BD dissection"></a>

Maybe that top could have somehow been popped off with brute force, but I doubt it. Even when I had dremeled the top off, I couldn't get the cells out. Dremeled a line down the center, still no luck. Dremeled off the bottomed and pushed the cells out. Notice the nice foam padding on all sides, plus top and bottom. And, the shrink wrap.

Pulling back the shrink wrap revealed a very nice surprise. High quality Panasonic 18650 cells (made in Japan), model number CGR18650DA. Not only is Panasonic known for reasonable quality control, their capacity ratings are generally accurate. These are cells rated at 2450maH. Here is the datasheet: https://www.panasonic.com/industrial/includes/pdf/Panasonic_LiIon_CGR18650DA.pdf

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5735764256/" title="BD cells (Panasonic!) by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/5735764256_3d91f5b9b3_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="BD cells (Panasonic!)"></a>

Not that I'm a PCB specialist, but the circuit board looks nice and the soldering and wiring all appear to be top-notch.

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/thebakerz/5735766350/" title="Baja Designs circuit board by bbaker22, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2287/5735766350_6857c07106_z.jpg" width="480" height="640" alt="Baja Designs circuit board"></a>

Of the probably 20 battery packs I've used for bikes over the years, this has gotta be the nicest and sturdiest one yet. I obviously haven't had time to really cycle through either of my two packs, so only time will really tell how they hold up. I hope to use and abuse the remaining pack and see how it stands up.
 

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Awesome review. I just ordered two of these todays from Shannon, and Im glad I did after seeing the quality of the lights in general.
 

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Thanks for sacrificing the battery for the sake of science, Baker. That is quite an impressive battery and one more reason I feel good about purchasing from Baja Designs. The Strykr is a beast.
 

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I ran a couple discharge tests from 16.8v to 12.0v to determine battery capacity:

2336maH
2320maH

Close to rated capacity of each individual cell (2450maH).
 

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Thanks Baker
After seeing this I'm sure not skeptical about these lights
I'm Impressed Built like a Tank Nice:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

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I ran a couple discharge tests from 16.8v to 12.0v to determine battery capacity:

2336maH
2320maH

Close to rated capacity of each individual cell (2450maH).
2nd pack test: 2360maH
 
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