[Arran]

I'm building a retro 'rider' and am deciding how to spec. it. I'm on the look out for a suitable cr-mo frame (preferably Tange Prestige) to mount a bunch of parts I have.

I'm tossing up between using a pair of M900 brake/shift levers I have lying around and going 24 speed or getting a pair of Paul's Thumbies and a pair of 10 speed Barcon shifters and going 20 or 30 speed.

Has anyone tried 10 speed Barcons with, say an Ultegra or Dura-Ace 12-27 cassette?

Cheers.

Arran.

 

[alexg]

A 10 speed chain is starting to get narrow and mtbs are harder on chains than road bikes the mud pack up problem is also a concern with 10 sp chains that said cyclocross guys use them in the mud but some cyclocrossers have an extra bike in the pits too. You can score some good deals on 9 speed shimano road stuff now since the push is to 10 speed.

 

[Shayne]

FSP Made His Own

With Campy Record barcons.
I fondled them but never got to try them out.

 

[Gummee]

I've got 9sp on my Dean.

Work great! HIGHLY recommended.

Right side = thumbie and 9sp barcon
Left side = Deore XT 6sp thumbshifter

No it ain't matched, but the 6sp thumbshifter works great so why change it?!

M

 

[sallen]

I emailed Paul about this a couple months ago.

I asked: "Will thumbies work with Shimano 10-speed bar-cons?"

Here's his response:

"Yes, absolutely.

Have a good ride,

Paul"

 

[Arran]

I emailed Paul about this a couple months ago.

I asked: "Will thumbies work with Shimano 10-speed bar-cons?"

Here's his response:

"Yes, absolutely.

Have a good ride,

Paul"

Great, informative yet... not.

 

[Gummee]

Great, informative yet... not.

I dont' see what the issue is. They'll work fine. He said so.

What's not clear?

M

 

[Rumpfy]

I ran bar con/Pauls set up on my Scott with DA 7700 rear derailleur and 12-27 cassette, 42-29-20 rings up front.

The set up worked fine gearing wise and accuracy, but I didn't care for the super long throw of the thifters. From lowest gear to highest gear, you're moving that bar con a long ways.

Just my $.02 on them.

 

[Arran]

...The set up worked fine gearing wise and accuracy, but I didn't care for the super long throw of the thifters. From lowest gear to highest gear, you're moving that bar con a long ways...

Thanks for the info. Rumpfy. The long throw was annoying enough to get rid of the setup?

Also, was 'trimming' the front derailleur to get it positioned in the right place annoying at all?

 

[Rumpfy]

Thanks for the info. Rumpfy. The long throw was annoying enough to get rid of the setup?

Also, was 'trimming' the front derailleur to get it positioned in the right place annoying at all?

Uuuh...yeah, I'm getting rid of the set up. If I want thumb shifters, I'll run a 7 speed drive train, or make an 8 spd. set up work with the magic 'extra click' of the XTII thumbs...

Then again, I like M952 trigger shifters, so it's no big deal to me if I have to run 9spd.

I didn't do any front der. mods.

 

[shiggy]

...Also, was 'trimming' the front derailleur to get it positioned in the right place annoying at all?

Trimming the derailleur annoying? I think NOT being able to trim with indexed shifters is annoying! Rear indexing is OK but it has never made sense to me for the front.

 

[Jeroen]

Yep... Thats what I like most of the thumbies, being able to have the front derailleur rub-free at a flick of the finger. Im also very into gripshifters. I liked the front shifters with multiple clicks between the gears for that same reason. Not as 'free' as with the friction thumbies, but enough 'between-clicks' to run trouble free on both 8 and 9spd setups with 2 rings up front.