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Jamin, Applesause, No?
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I have read a lot of good stuff about the Tioga Psycho Genius tires. I am looking to buy new tires to replace my Nevegal upfront and SB8 in the back. I like the way the Nevegal grips in the corners but it drags to much on the flats and uphills. Anyone have experience in this part of the country with the Tiogas?
 

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Tioga has really gone out of favor. Back in the early 90's they were one of the most dominant tire companies. Interestingly, Tioga's most popular tire was sponsored by John Tomac (same guy who's signature is on your kenda's) Back then Farmer John and Farmer John's Cousin tire were on like half the bikes on the trails. Back in those day's Kenda was crap tires you'd only find on very low end bikes.

Boy have the tables turned. Seams like nobody even sells Tioga tires anymore. Meanwhile John Tomac's Nevegal has turned Kenda into a major tire company.

Sorry I've got no real info on the psyco. I bet they are fine tires. The knobs look small. I imagine they are similar to the small block 8's
 

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apparently they're an awesome tire, so awesome everywhere is selling out of them. next set of tires i need i am going to try them.
 

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Jamin, Applesause, No?
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I been online looking for the folding beed 2.3 and 2.1 and can not find them on my regular sites. Just the Wire beed 2.3. And I can not find UST ones anywhere, I read somewhere they were supposed to be coming out with them already.
 

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I found a bike shop in Des Moines Iowa that had the 2.3 folding and was getting in the 2.1 in 2 weeks. They will be shipping some to me soon. BTW, I have family in Des Moines. We will see how they ride. I can always go back to the nevegal.
 

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Senor StrongBad said:
I found a bike shop in Des Moines Iowa that had the 2.3 folding and was getting in the 2.1 in 2 weeks. They will be shipping some to me soon. BTW, I have family in Des Moines. We will see how they ride. I can always go back to the nevegal.
Post up after you get some miles on these and let us know what you think. I'm thinking about this exact combo for a little less weight and hopefully more versatility than the steel bead High Rollers I'm currently running. :thumbsup:
 

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Being an admitted tire-toucher, I find the "Spoke Wrench/'Storm Trooper Helmet" design interesting. Look a bit skiddy for hard pack and wet roots. Funny how the lastest Bike mag falls open to their ad...

Let us know how those Dynamic A.I. Knobs work out for you. :ihih:
 

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I will try and post something when I get them.... They are on back order but I should be getting them end of this month... hopefully!
 

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So I cancelled the order for the 2.1 and went with 2.3 instead. They arrived yesterday and I got to mount them on my new easton haven wheels last night. They look great so far. They were harder to mount then my Kenda nevegal and my SB8. I put 2 servings of Stanz in each tire as per the directions and hit them with the air compressor and some soap and water. It took about 10 minutes or so for the stanz to fill in all the holes. They might be just as big or bigger then the Nevegal 2.35 that I have but to me they look smaller. I am running them with the center tread pointing forward.

I do not know if I will take them out on a test run this weekend as it has been raining all week and I have a bunch of yard work that needs to be done. I will post again after the first ride.

FWIW - I am going from Crossmax SX with nevegal 2.35 front SB8 back.
 

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Hey,
The Tioga website says there is a UST option.

Can't find one for sale anywhere. Anyone know where to get the UST version?

thnx
i could not find the UST either. I just went with the regular folding ones and added a cup and a half of stanz and was good to go. MBAction reccomends this route in one of there last issues.
 

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I got my new Tiogas mounted up and took them for there maiden voyage on Saturday. I had the front at 35 psi and the rear at 37 psi or so. First impressions are that they are good tires with a lot of grip for climbing. There are sections were my tires slip out everytime that these tires did not slip out. I found that they did not pick up leaves and sticks the way my old tires did but they pick up sand and fling it into my face which I have never had happen before. Not a big deal as there are few really sandy sections on my local trail (SS). They seemed a little harsher on the ride then I am use to, but this could be that I am running new wheels as well and that I am running them 5psi higher them my last tires. They felt good in the corners but seemed to drift a little more until you leaned far enough into the turn to grab the trail with the side nobs. This was not a problem on really tight fast turns but more on the gentle fast turns. They went over roots and gripped them very well too, I intentionally went out of my way on some climbs to test this. I scraped across a rock with my side wall and it made a sound as if I was running across a cat. They were almost instantaniously clean after running though some mud, unlike my old panracer xc's which would have been a pound heavier after. I will ride them again this evening and try and push them a little harder.
 

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2.3's Tubeless with Stan's

I just mounted up the 2.3's on Mavic 819's with Stan's. Took them out for the first time @ Hawes today in Phoenix. There are some good rocky spots on this trail, and they performed very well. I was concerned about the sidewall too at first, but ran into no problems today (I'm about 225 without gear and I ran them at 30PSI). I'll update later on once I get some more miles through bigger chunk on them.

Cornering: These hold very well in the corners, the seem to dig in and hold well. When they do start to break free it is gradual and predictable.

Traction: They grip well all around, with a bit of slipping in pea gravel over hardpack.

Climbing: They dig in as well as any other tire I've run (lots and lots of them...)

Overall, I am pretty happy with these after day one. I'll let everyone know if they continue to perform well. :thumbsup:
 

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shiggy how is your long term review coming along?

can anyone compare these to any of the schwalbes perhaps even with the new hans Dampf (which I was a few minutes of ordering)???

thanks!
 

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Too funny - I was actually going to look that thread up today. Thank you fellow-tire-tester.
So, is there a review yet?
 
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