Well, I guess I was out there making a mess then. But the "The Old Thursday night ride" is mostly old mining roads and quad trails w/ some pave` also. As far as ST, none. I must say though, the riding is really awesome when it's this wet out. The quads have a couple puddles that are axle deep right now and let me tell ya'... If you want to have fun, It doesn't get much better than flying around a long, blind turn in 3-7 and standing and from out of nowhere comes that puddle! The momentum killer! BTW, it's not easy hitting the wall of water in 3-7 and trying to pedal out the other side. Fun as hell though! Fahn
Ps. did you check out hubbardbicycleclub.com ? They're planning on another 12-14 mile'r.