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Wondering about the difference between that bikes,
Looks similar but very different
Do I need to think about changing my beloved SS to the new UVP

Intense People pleas help with that not too many riders on the UVP
 

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I can tell you 1 main difference is the shock mounting hardware- 6mm on the Uzzi instead of the 8mm as on the SS. They should have opted for the 8mm bolts on a bike with this much travel IMO. 1 more thing to note is the angled seat tube of the Uzzi- you will not be able to drop your seat down as far as you could on the SS. I think for all intended purposes though you could get by using the Uzzi in the same manner you could the SS- hence the discontinuing of the SS.
 

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Say it aint so E2! No mo SS? Any word if it is getting replaced? I ride a medium SS with a 45mm stem. Would a small uzzi fit the bill as a replacement in terms of sizing if I get a longer stem?
 

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Dre- as far as i know- the Uzzi is the "replacement".

And yes, you are pretty much on the money with the sizing question. I run a medium SS with a 50mm stem, but the 23" TT of the Medium Uzzi might be a touch more than I'd want for the way I'm using the SS currently.

Stiffness- not sure to be honest- we have only sold a handful as frames w/ parts- none complete yet to "test" out. I can only speculate that if there is a difference in stiffness, it would have to be due to the new designed lower link on the Uzzi Vp, which is retro-fittable to the SS or any other Intense VPP model. So if it's stiffer, then that could be a worthwhile investment for $65 and no more rocks getting caught in the older style box link.
 

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I can only speculate that if there is a difference in stiffness, it would have to be due to the new designed lower link on the Uzzi Vp, which is retro-fittable to the SS or any other Intense VPP model. So if it's stiffer, then that could be a worthwhile investment for $65 and no more rocks getting caught in the older style box link.
The lower link is retro-fittable to the older bikes? I have an Uzzi VPX and would order one ASAP if I could get confirmation of this.
 

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E2.....2 revelations in one thread!!!/

Is the SS really being discontinued.....? Might not sell mine after all.

Sure the Uzzi could do most things the SS does, but theres plenty that the SS does way better i reckon. The Uzzi is less of an all-rounder (IMO) as it has another inch of travel and a higher standover.......but then maybe more trail friendly....hmmmmm.

I race DH and 4X on mine, not many bikes can do that and do it fairly well!! I think its a real shame they don't just update it and make it shorter travel, and even more slopestyle/jump friendly!? Oh well, i'm sure they know what they're doing. secondly, the lower box link.......... can i order one here in the UK? How much? I had no idea they were retor-fittable!!

Thanks for the help E2!
 

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Great service, as usual, from E2. I've already started on my order. The only thing holding it up is me trying to decide if I "need" anything else.
 

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I can tell you 1 main difference is the shock mounting hardware- 6mm on the Uzzi instead of the 8mm as on the SS. They should have opted for the 8mm bolts on a bike with this much travel IMO. 1 more thing to note is the angled seat tube of the Uzzi- you will not be able to drop your seat down as far as you could on the SS. I think for all intended purposes though you could get by using the Uzzi in the same manner you could the SS- hence the discontinuing of the SS.
I second that...quite strange to chose a 6mm hw :skep: can you post wich size mounting hw is? Is it like the vpx (insted switched from 8mm to 6mm)? I'm whaiting for mine to arrive, but I like to change shock and stay with my revox, so I need to buy the correct hw.
 

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Got that lower link today from E2. It's probably not going to go on my VPX, though... because I just scored an SS frame. I'm keeping the VPX, so I'll have to order another link from E2 sometime in the future.
 

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Do you see any issues with the fit of the lower link on the SS?
It goes on the SS no problem, I swapped mine over a few weeks ago. I mean all the lower links are a bit of a pain in the a$$ to reassemble with the spacers and what not, plus the new design is impossible to put on backwards or upside down like the older design. I don't notice any increase in stiffness from the new link though, but it is nice not to have rocks and stuff clanking around in there and getting stuck. The flex is in the rear triangle, not the links i've decided.

Plus I can't figure out for the life of me why the entire new lower link assembly is only $35 and the pivot bolts for the upper link are $20 each. :eek:ut: I ordered 2 spare bolts just in case I lose one as they do come loose on occasion and I have seen others lose them. I mean the bolts are pretty complex to machine but they are tiny compared to the lower link, plus most of the lower link ends up as shavings...

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It goes on the SS no problem, I swapped mine over a few weeks ago. I mean all the lower links are a bit of a pain in the a$$ to reassemble with the spacers and what not, plus the new design is impossible to put on backwards or upside down like the older design. I don't notice any increase in stiffness from the new link though, but it is nice not to have rocks and stuff clanking around in there and getting stuck. The flex is in the rear triangle, not the links i've decided.

Plus I can't figure out for the life of me why the entire new lower link assembly is only $35 and the pivot bolts for the upper link are $20 each. :eek:ut: I ordered 2 spare bolts just in case I lose one as they do come loose on occasion and I have seen others lose them. I mean the bolts are pretty complex to machine but they are tiny compared to the lower link, plus most of the lower link ends up as shavings...

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Installed it last night without any problems other than shooting a spacer across the garage floor and having to crawl around looking for it. Took about 20 minutes total.
 

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Are you telling me that there is another upgrade for the VPX? Apart from not collecting rocks, how else is the new lower link an upgrade?
 

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Uhhhh, am I missing something? I had a SS for a while and the BB was so low that pedaling thru rock gardens or while cranked over in a turn was impossible. I sat my Socom beside the SS and the BB CL was nearly an inch lower while the rider was seated. My old VPX and my Uzzi VP are nowhere near the same bike as the SS.
 

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Anyone else offer more insight into the differences between the two bikes? Am also considering an SS but wondering if the Uzzi is a better all-round bike.
 
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