Anti-seize, loctite, grease ??

b12yan88 said:

I am building a new wheel and don't know what to use. I have heard people say usinig anti-seize is good, others grease, and others loctite. I was wondering what people use for his or her spokes ?

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Anti-sieze. No threadlocking ability, better staying power than grease, and a little "gritty". Been using it on the advice of the crew here for a few years now (just a handful of builds) and once everything is tensioned up good and proper, the wheels hold tight 'n true.

You forgot to add to your list linseed oil and Tri-Flow.

i use wheelsmith spoke prep for the nipple/spoke interface, one tub will build several dozen wheels. for the nipple/rim interface i use light machine oil.

You need anti-sieze on the nipple threads; you don't want

those threads to 'lock-up' during build-up or anytime afterwards, especially if you like high spoke tension. I've rounded nipples before while getting close to the true & tight condition. So you want smooth turning nipples. After some miles, you'll need to retrue the wheels, so you'll thank yourself for using anti-sieze or SpokePrep.

And as in the previous post, use some type of light lube on the nipple-to-rim surface. I use Phil's tenacious oil. Just be sure to wipe it ALL off or you'll see exactly where is was after your first ride. There'll be dirt attached to the oil. This is an important lube point especially for high tension. As mentioned before, I've rounded nipples off. I think it was because I didn't have enough anti-sieze or Phil's oil.

JT

'nother vote for anti-seize

Never loctite. anti-seize is much cheaper than spoke prep. buy a small tub from the local hardware store, it'll last forever for your wheel building, BB, and any other bike bolt needs!

can't add anything else to what others have already said, except to say make sure you check out sheldon brown's & mike T's sites for all the info you'll need.

b12yan88 said:

I am building a new wheel and don't know what to use. I have heard people say usinig anti-seize is good, others grease, and others loctite. I was wondering what people use for his or her spokes ?

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What type of anti-seize are you suppose to use ? ? for thosse steel and brass niipples

b12yan88 said:

What type of anti-seize are you suppose to use ? ? for thosse steel and brass niipples

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Any anti-seize will do, my anti-seize is Nulon L90 anti-seize comes in a handy squeeze tube, anti-seize is pretty much very sticky grease (stays put).
Just wipe the excess off well, this stuff is sticky as hell.

Speedüb Nate said:

You forgot to add to your list linseed oil and Tri-Flow.

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I've heard of people using vegetable cooking oil. Won't last long at high pressures.

Thanks

Thanks, I'll just pick up a squeeze bottle kind at Home depot

So I am not the one using L90 for building wheels....

jonowee said:

Any anti-seize will do, my anti-seize is Nulon L90 anti-seize comes in a handy squeeze tube, anti-seize is pretty much very sticky grease (stays put).
Just wipe the excess off well, this stuff is sticky as hell.

I've heard of people using vegetable cooking oil. Won't last long at high pressures.

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Wayne

b12yan88 said:

Thanks, I'll just pick up a squeeze bottle kind at Home depot

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I use Permatex Anti-Seize in a little can with a brush in its cap. Then you can brush the stuff on a whole fistfull of spokes at once.

Mike T. said:

I use Permatex Anti-Seize in a little can with a brush in its cap. Then you can brush the stuff on a whole fistfull of spokes at once.

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A brush version is super handy if you working on brand spanking new and clean spokes, precise and minimal waste.

I prefer a squeeze bottle eventhough I waste more, I can reduce contamination and squeeze crapped-up anti-seize out. I also use it on BB threads and it's not always 100% clean because over time the brush is going to get gunked up.

jonowee said:

A brush version is super handy if you working on brand spanking new and clean spokes, precise and minimal waste.
I prefer a squeeze bottle eventhough I waste more, I can reduce contamination and squeeze crapped-up anti-seize out. I also use it on BB threads and it's not always 100% clean because over time the brush is going to get gunked up.

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My brush isn't gunked up and I've been using it for 25yrs+. But then I don't apply it to dirty parts either.

Mike T. said:

My brush isn't gunked up and I've been using it for 25yrs+. But then I don't apply it to dirty parts either.

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Good valid point.
I use my anti-seize on a range of parts needed it and they're not always clean.
I'm pretty 'anal' about keeping my "additives" clean and uncontaminated, that's how I am. I do things like using 3 different pop-sticks to work with grease (Clean-Clean for getting grease out of the tub, Clean for applying grease onto clean parts, Dirty for parts like derailleur jockey wheels).

I have looked for te anti-seiize iin several different hardware stores, but ii couldn't find any. Where did you get yours at ?

b12yan88 said:

I have looked for te anti-seiize iin several different hardware stores, but ii couldn't find any. Where did you get yours at ?

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Try automotive parts suppliers. They will have it.

Thanks , ill give that a try tomorrow

Did a Search and found this thread.
So 10years have passed....

Has the anti-seize make modle type changed at all?
Is there a New and improved way or product to apply when building a new wheelset?
Automotive or Hardware store stuff still the best/cheepest way to go>?

Will Bacon grease work? ;-P

It's still the same old Permatex anti seize from the auto parts store.

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Burt4x4 said:

Did a Search and found this thread.
So 10years have passed....
Has the anti-seize make modle type changed at all?
Is there a New and improved way or product to apply when building a new wheelset?
Automotive or Hardware store stuff still the best/cheepest way to go>?

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It's still the same stuff from 40 years ago. You can't improve on perfection.

Will Bacon grease work? ;-P

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Yes if you don't mind dogs chasing you. You can use it to perfect your sprint.

LOL OK thanks fellas...

I just read that artical about lindseed oil soaked rags spontainously catching fire :-O

My spokes and nipps should be here Monday...then I can finnaly start my lacing!

Thanks all for putting up with me
Burt